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C5 Vaccination Rule
Nicholas Arena Australia (Verified User) Posts 233 Dogs 10 / Races 0 10 Aug 2017 02:37
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We are almost through winter - what are people's view on the effectiveness of the C5 compliance rule.
We are regularly reminded regulation is introduced based on empirical evidence or the advice of experts - so lets get a feel for what empirical evidence at kennel level looks like.
Has it resulted in prevention?
Is it a good initiative?
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 10 Aug 2017 03:06
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Nicholas Arena wrote:
We are almost through winter - what are people's view on the effectiveness of the C5 compliance rule.
We are regularly reminded regulation is introduced based on empirical evidence or the advice of experts - so lets get a feel for what empirical evidence at kennel level looks like.
Has it resulted in prevention?
Is it a good initiative?
I think there are about 13 known Canine Flews ... C5 covers I think 5 off the top of my head ... If it is the strain they have been Vacc against the symptoms are not as harsh but how do you really know what strain it is not unless you get a blood test and further test to determine what strain it is ..
Honey Glycerine and lemon seems to be one of the better aids to help them get over the cough ....
C5 is not a waist a time and it should be a three year shot ....The PTB will not allow a three year shot ...I wonder why ...
Bronwyn Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 140 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 Aug 2017 11:24
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C5 covers Distemper, Hepatitis, Parvovirus and 2 strains of Kennel Cough (Bordatella and Parainfluenza). There are numerous strains of Kennel Cough but they only cover the 2 most common strains in a C5. Bit like human flu vaccines every year - they can't cover all of the strains. Also the 3 yearly vac is only for C3 (Parvovirus, Hepatitis and Distemper). The Kennel Cough vac still has to be given annually. Hope this helps.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 13 Aug 2017 21:45
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As far as I am concerned its a waist of money my pups were vaccinated 2 mths. ago and they all have the cough and have done for over a week now .Its bullshit with a capital B. J.M.O.
Bronwyn Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 140 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 02:17
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I partly agree Ted. We can never get 100%coverage with any vaccinations but when they are vaccinated and still get a dose of it (KC or other diseases like Parvovirus) it is never quite as bad as they have some immunity and seem to fight it off quicker. Two of mine were fully vaccinated and then went off to the breakers and both came home with KC. But it was only a mild infection (one of the other less common strains). I will never "bag" vaccines as I remember the Distemper outbreaks years ago and Parvovirus when it first hit Australia in the late 70's. Don't want to go back to the bad old days!!
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 04:56
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The best pup has the virus worse than I have ever had before and the others have had it for over a week don't think it lessened the impact at all Bronwyn.Agree on Parvo but only needed once.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 15 Aug 2017 10:11
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
The best pup has the virus worse than I have ever had before and the others have had it for over a week don't think it lessened the impact at all Bronwyn.Agree on Parvo but only needed once.
Ted, Do yourself and your pups a big favour and go and buy yourself some dried PURE echinacea from a produce store. Don't buy a commercial version. Get some TOMORROW. Put some in a grinder and mix a large pinch in each individual's dinner until well after they get over it. Just do it and let me know how they are after 3 or 4 days.
Cheers.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 15 Aug 2017 10:51
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Ted, try some Manuka honey, too. It also seems to work well.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 16 Aug 2017 01:54
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Michael where do I get it from as I have never heard of it. Hi Carole always use honey and glycerine thanks. sorry about the slow reply but I have been a bit busy.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 16 Aug 2017 02:14
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Ted, Manuka honey works much better than ordinary honey. Give it a try.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 16 Aug 2017 03:42
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
Michael where do I get it from as I have never heard of it. Hi Carole always use honey and glycerine thanks. sorry about the slow reply but I have been a bit busy.
Ted, you can get it at Produce Stores but you might have to ring around to see if they stock it. Horse people have used it for ages. Dried leaf, flowers, stalks. Out of all the things I've tried this is by far the best. It is an IMMEDIATE immune booster best used before the KC season, however, it will give your pups a massive boost to fight existing illnesses. You can use it in conjunction with Carole's suggestion of M/honey if you like. You cannot underestimate the power of it.
Good luck.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 16 Aug 2017 07:34
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Thanks Michael and Carole most are over it now just a couple still with it out of ten will shop around and try it Michael thank you.
Kev Galloway Australia (Verified User) Posts 2447 Dogs 5 / Races 0 17 Aug 2017 00:16
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Kevin Wright wrote:
Nicholas Arena wrote:
We are almost through winter - what are people's view on the effectiveness of the C5 compliance rule.
We are regularly reminded regulation is introduced based on empirical evidence or the advice of experts - so lets get a feel for what empirical evidence at kennel level looks like.
Has it resulted in prevention?
Is it a good initiative?
I think there are about 13 known Canine Flews ... C5 covers I think 5 off the top of my head ... If it is the strain they have been Vacc against the symptoms are not as harsh but how do you really know what strain it is not unless you get a blood test and further test to determine what strain it is ..
Honey Glycerine and lemon seems to be one of the better aids to help them get over the cough ....
C5 is not a waist a time and it should be a three year shot ....The PTB will not allow a three year shot ...I wonder why ...
Kevin,when is the current rule,(c5 @ 12 months before naming)to be changed?
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