"Please Note: Due to photos being copied and altered from our website a watermark giving Greyhound-Data Ltd copyright will be added to your photo.

This will help prevent the illegal use of your photo by other persons. Greyhound-Data Ltd will never give a third party permission to use your photo.

If you do not own the copyright or do not agree to the above please do not upload your photo onto Greyhound-Data."

The last thing I want is somebody to use a photo I've up-loaded to this site, for the purpose of GREEN or ANIMAL ACTIVIST bullsh1t.

Totally agree.

Nice to see this. The antis steal our pictures from G-D, and other places, all the time.

Agree with others the low dog antis use any participants material for their own delusional ends.

Sorry, but I am mystified.

I am not precisely sure who owns the basic copyright to race pictures - it will be one of SKY, Utube, the club or the state authority.

Whatever, it certainly does not belong to G-D or to the bloke who copied a file from the originator. In fact, adding a watermark might well constitute a breach of copyright laws anyway depending on what you do with it.

Separately, copyright or not, the videos or parts thereof are in the public domain, and intended to be. If you use them, you can do anything you like in your own home but if you amend them and put them out to others (ie publish them) you are breaching that copyright.

Anyway, there is no question of G-D giving or denying use of a file you do not own.

Similarly, most clubs have contracted with a photographer to take photos of winners. That would normally give the photographer full and sole rights to do what he pleases with them. (This is different from you taking your own photo of some part of the race from some other point - you then own that, assuming that there are no other rules to prevent that happening.

Very confusing.

Some galleries ban photos of any sort. Others don't. In my lounge room I have a Picasso print purchased from a gallery which was able to do that under license. But if copy it and insert my logo and sign it and then pass it on or sell it on I am breaking the law.

Greyhound-Data has stated publicly that we will never approve use of any photos to a third party. Nor will we ever sell or give away any of these photos.

It is very upsetting when a member contacts us and tells us their photo that they uploaded onto our website has been manipulated to discredit them and used elsewhere and shared throughout social media. We then have had to tell them sorry we cannot help you.

If there is a better way to try and protect our members we would be interested in hearing it.

I hear you but I am still mystified. What photos?

If we are talking about photos of dogs on the breeding pages then I understand perfectly. Or of photos on ads.

But nobody said that so I had to check.

Incidentally, my words and articles get pirated all over the country
and overseas, sometimes without attribution to the copyright owner, and always without payment to me. They have even been listed on this very website (without permission, of course!). One was translated into Finnish.

We live in a world where cheating is becoming acceptable. Just ask the banks. Or the blokes who put songs on here, possibly after illegally downloading them. Or the well known country which hacks into US and other secrets. Or Russian resident Snowden. Or Julian Assange. Or anybody, really.

By the way, I accept that Tony is trying to do the right thing, but a competent IT person could easily remove watermarks and the like, although I don't know why they would bother.

I am keenly aware of the topic.

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Good work Tony!

Bruce Teague wrote:

Thanks Richard, If we are talking about photos of dogs on the breeding pages then I understand perfectly. Or of photos on ads. But nobody said that so I had to check. Incidentally, my words and articles get pirated all over the country and overseas, sometimes without attribution to the copyright owner, and always without payment to me. They have even been listed on this very website (without permission, of course!). One was translated into Finnish. We live in a world where cheating is becoming acceptable. Just ask the banks. Or the blokes who put songs on here, possibly after illegally downloading them. Or the well known country which hacks into US and other secrets. Or Russian resident Snowden. Or Julian Assange. Or anybody, really. By the way, I accept that Tony is trying to do the right thing, but a competent IT person could easily remove watermarks and the like, although I don't know why they would bother. I am keenly aware of the topic.

Thankyou for that. If you recall, on my last post I said "I understand perfectly" now. And I see nothing wrong with the watermark as such. Perhaps if the original statement on this thread had explained the issue thoroughly most of the subsequent to and fro, including all the smart alec comments, would never have occurred.

My non-dog references simply aimed to show the nature of the world we live in, something which is usually ignored by greyhound people - to their cost.

And I have personally been quoted by Grey2K - out of context, of course - so I am well aware of the problem. But others are not, as for example when GA foolishly got a photo taken with Grey2K's visiting chief.

There are a hundred Grey2Ks around the world who will never stop what they are doing. The trick now is to (a) keep our house in order and (b) mount stronger and stronger campaigns to show the public the positive side of the industry. Aside from GAP, we have done a terrible job of that.

Defense is one thing, attack is quite another.