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Raymond Peter Fewings
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Don't believe it's negative. All good rearers in SA are full. Any outsider wanting to invest in our sport would struggle to find someone to rear, break in and pre train here. Trainers want them running time before they take them. We would follow Sandown's lead if we had the money.


Hayden Gilders
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07 Jul 2018 01:28


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Peter you raise an interesting point even though a wee bit off topic. The investment iput by owner(s) can be huge. Professional trainers wont take ordinary dogs but they do take a substantial percentage of stake money with little or no investment of their own. They then give it back to the owner to clean up the mess by domesticating and rehoming the animal. Some might think the trainer now gets too big a share



Kevin Wright
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Raymond Peter Fewings wrote:

Don't believe it's negative. All good rearers in SA are full. Any outsider wanting to invest in our sport would struggle to find someone to rear, break in and pre train here. Trainers want them running time before they take them. We would follow Sandown's lead if we had the money.

Ok Ray
With almost 1500 views ...

Believe it or not i have 14 people who agree one who don't ..

You i guess sit in the 10% of people that agree ..Fantastic

Now tell us who pays who and what terms and conditions are placed on each dog ..

Who pays for the huge losses ...

How many Syndicates make money ...NAME JUST ONE ....out of the many Thousands of syndicates out there ..

Syndicates make money only for the people running the dogs in fact those people get a free ride ....

Spollys gets FREE advertisement at the tracks from the GRV ...

Spollys receive funds regardless if the dog racers or not ..

Who are Spollys ....They have been in the game for maybe 5 years ..

How many City winners does this kennel get
How many top class dogs have they had go through there kennel ..

Now WE LOOK AT THE SKILLS

Have they got Marketing skills ...Peoples skills ,,,Business experience .

I owned a Boarding Kennel for over 12 years dealing with people 7 days a week all day and night ...I know the mental stresses associated with the K9 Industry .DO THEY

Have these people operated any large scale kennels in the past .. with success
Have they Owned any Business and have they been successful

Have they got any Qualifications in regards to Animal Husbandry courses..and Vet Nurse Qualifications...

I hear other rumblings about this Kennel already so

Do we need the hassle ....




Charles W Mizzi
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Kevin Wright wrote:

Raymond Peter Fewings wrote:

Don't believe it's negative. All good rearers in SA are full. Any outsider wanting to invest in our sport would struggle to find someone to rear, break in and pre train here. Trainers want them running time before they take them. We would follow Sandown's lead if we had the money.

Ok Ray
With almost 1500 views ...

Believe it or not i have 14 people who agree one who don't ..

You i guess sit in the 10% of people that agree ..Fantastic

Now tell us who pays who and what terms and conditions are placed on each dog ..

Who pays for the huge losses ...

How many Syndicates make money ...NAME JUST ONE ....out of the many Thousands of syndicates out there ..

Syndicates make money only for the people running the dogs in fact those people get a free ride ....

Spollys gets FREE advertisement at the tracks from the GRV ...

Spollys receive funds regardless if the dog racers or not ..

Who are Spollys ....They have been in the game for maybe 5 years ..

How many City winners does this kennel get
How many top class dogs have they had go through there kennel ..

Now WE LOOK AT THE SKILLS

Have they got Marketing skills ...Peoples skills ,,,Business experience .

I owned a Boarding Kennel for over 12 years dealing with people 7 days a week all day and night ...I know the mental stresses associated with the K9 Industry .DO THEY

Have these people operated any large scale kennels in the past .. with success
Have they Owned any Business and have they been successful

Have they got any Qualifications in regards to Animal Husbandry courses..and Vet Nurse Qualifications...

I hear other rumblings about this Kennel already so

Do we need the hassle ....


Apart from all that Kevin, will it be legal, that is the biggest question. From what l sense this has been in discussion for a while, maybe between the 2 city clubs, GRV and the racing minister. Has it been correctly researched, l guess we will find out soon. When l spoke to a person involved in racehorse syndication he was horrified with what he saw on spolly's website and another person with knowledge of syndications commented it may not be legal. I guess watch this space!




Kevin Wright
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07 Jul 2018 06:49


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Charles

Truth is hard, propaganda is cheap.

The GRV and the Two City Tracks and the Government have in fact come up with this grand plan to appease themselves and it serves no purpose or direction we should be travelling down in the present climate ...

GAP will be the dumping ground for all of the Wastage ...

Each Owner Trainer should be given Guaranteed Slots in GAP before we start spending our money on a Farm ..
Training farm breeding farm Rearing farm it does not matter because over time they will be breeding from there own Dam Lines...

The present OTB should get placement within the GRV Gap system before some NEW SYNDICATE DOGS ....

Many will be watching and many are watching these current events .

All i can say is that i have never had 14 Likes Agree's ever on Data ... hahaha...

Charles as you know RF has been working on Syndicates with the GRV for years ..
The GRV were warned ...This could back fire back and in fact there are many GREY Area's i believe others are looking into .

We still have some great people in the Industry and i feel it is time for change at the GRASS roots ...

The GOTBA holds the only TRUMP CARD ...




Michael Barry
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this enterprise, could well be set up off shore , with only suitable racing stock being introduced to the racing pool here


Hayden Gilders
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Michael Barry wrote:

this enterprise, could well be set up off shore , with only suitable racing stock being introduced to the racing pool here

Somewhere where the welfare laws arent so onerous


Hayden Gilders
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Kev what have you learnt about sandown taking over the management of healsville. Is it just a management arrangement or an amalgamation of clubs or???



Kevin Wright
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Hayden Gilders wrote:

Kev what have you learnt about sandown taking over the management of healsville. Is it just a management arrangement or an amalgamation of clubs or???

Hayden

PATHETIC......Criminal....and its just not the Aussie way ....

These clubs were built with the hard work and toil of our past great people within our sport and today it is getting ripped out of our hands bythe PTB its a terrible situation we are now in

I do believe this is part of a Agenda to try and destroy the basic Club structure .
I also believe there was attempts from within to try and change the way we race dogs in Australia today.

If the little guy starts to loose his ability to compete and train with the commercial guys then the greyhound racing will loose its core value as we know it as today.

One thing i can assure everyone is that there is a GROUND SWELL of support for us all at the grass root level .

Healesville like Warrnambool . Clubs and there Committees have been white anted ..Shunned ...

The GRV under the control of Big Al have destroyed the very essence of a true Members Club.

This has to STOP ...This is wrong

These Clubs .... our Clubs ran for years by hard working people .

What we have to do Haydon is to VOTE ...and we must keep pushing forward Exposing the Untruths and the unjust treatment of the GRV Members ...

People are watching ...The Government is watching

Big Al has his Minions out there attacking participants still today ...

We need to expose the LIES ...

We need to expose the hidden tapes

We need to expose the deal that was done with AA and the RSPCA and the present Labour Government in Victoria..

We have been set up railroaded and still we are losing our CLUBS our Members and our OTB and people are just walking away never to return

This is 100% a deliberate ploy by the PTB ...

I along with others are very concerned for our Industry at this point in time and you only have to look at the current staffing levels at the GRV to see just how bloody corrupt this is ..

I have first hand Knowledge and i have FACTS to back up any thing i have said 100% all the way .
i will eventually expose what i know when the time is right ..FACT

I have been warned cautioned many times with my comments on Social Media but lets just say if i get pushed many others will come falling down with me from the top and that Haydon is a fact ...

I have emails ..
I get sent emails
I also have warned people about the activities of certain OTB and people in power who are corrupt ..I have warned people about under cover agents ...working within our industry ..

I tried to help but the big guys laid in bed with Charlie Wilson so that must tell you they all had a lot to hide ...

This was even after he admitted to breaking into there kennels and homes those so called industry leaders sided with a triple agent working for AA the RSPCA the ABC and the GRV ....

Who is helping who and who is still running around thinking he is the golden boy of the Industry ..

Deals have been done years ago ...No one can say i did not warn you all years ago ..

Some may forget but i NEVER WILL .....

PS
I heard that a recent resignation with GRV Stewards has sent ripples from within

something to do with a Swab of a recent Group winners i hear Hayden ..
More to come ..
Why was the Mills family and the McDonald family treated differently to everyone else by the GRV..
Why did the corrupters get 7 years when others not committing a act got 10 years plus ..

Why was the Mills family afforded protection from within ..

These questions need answers but many are just to afraid to speak out ..

CORRUPTION FROM WITHIN ..





Jack Ogilvie
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Terry,it is up to the individual to declare if there is a conflict of interest and what is the conflict. I also believe there could be a town planing issue that may need to be resolved in this matter.



Kevin Wright
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Taken from other source copy paste ...
Interesting reading maybe Greg could help answer some of these Questions for us all .

hi not up with what is being offered or trainers commitment.Web page maybe needs more information.

Question if anyone knows the answers.

1/ if you pay $2,500 [ 5% ] making 20 members do you own the 3 greyhounds ?

2/ why do the trainers required to pay $5000 for the 3 greyhounds to train and the solo trainers are not asked to pay say $1300 ?

3 / no training fees so who pays the trainer when he gets the dogs say at 16 months but must keep them for 3 months.

4/ Say in a sydn. of three pups and they are not city class and the trainer moves them on does the next trainer have to pay any money?

5/ can the sydn decide to take the greyhound off the trainer and give it to another ?

6/if someone has an owner who pays to rear/break-in and pre-train their pups and gives them to his trainer how is the owner going to view the fact his trainer paid $5000 to try 3 pups at no cost ?

7/ back to ownership who owns the dog if a potential broody or stud dog ?

8/ when does the new synd take on the greyhounds ?

9/ what is the prizemoney split with the trainer ?

10/ are their any cost to pay the synd organizers or sandown ?

11/ is the trainer sole decider on where the greyhound races ?

12/ on their web page the only form if interest to train is the one saying you will pay $5000, what about a form for the individual trainer who gets 1 greyhound [0ne of the 12 ]to registrar or has that been decided already ?

13/ the money to buy the pups i am guessing came from sandown re grv payments, were the pups reared in victoria to keep victoria reares involved plus keeping the money in vic.?

14/ will the pups be reared in vic and broken in/pretrained in vic to support vic people ?

15/ I think they say to setup aust wide would that mean a synd that wants to go and see their greyhound race have the option to send their greyhound to a vic trainer ?
16/ some of the sydn with one dog are managed by others media ect can they nominate themselves to train, ?




Adam Crouch
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I can't answer some of your questions Kevin, but I just wanted to say what a great concept this should be. Congratulations to everyone involved, and it's great to see people attempting to revolutionise greyhound racing and give the public more opportunities at participating in the sport.


Robert Conway
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13 Nov 2018 22:35


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greg miller is a mile ahead of any other person at club level or admin. with promotion of greyhounds.


Mark William Claxton
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Robert, do you how the rearing is going to be set up ie runs & or paddocks and also who the manager is going to be? Thankyou.



Kevin Wright
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It might take a year it might take a day
what's meant to be will be
Will always find its way
Keep Calm and let Karma finish it .

Greyhound Racing Victoria Statement
Friday, 5 March, 2021, by Greyhound Racing Victoria

Greyhound Racing Victoria Board Deputy Chair, Greg Miller, has resigned from his position on the Board, effective immediately.

Mr Millers resignation follows a breach of the Greyhound Racing Victoria Gambling Policy.

The policy prohibits any GRV staff, executive and Board members from gambling at any time on greyhound racing.

The breach, which was a single bet, was uncovered during the annual audit of gambling activity undertaken by the organisation every February for the preceding year.

Mr Miller has apologised for his actions.

I understand that my one-off inadvertent action in January 2020 of betting on an interstate greyhound race went against the policy and I have resigned because of this.

Greyhound racing has, and always will be, an important part of my life and I will continue to support the sport as an individual going forward, said Mr Miller.



Kevin Wright
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robert conway wrote:

greg miller is a mile ahead of any other person at club level or admin. with promotion of greyhounds.

Miles ahead Hey Robby ..No one is better Hey Bud

If you have a job and you have rules regarding betting on Greyhound racing don't you think a person of such high standing as in your eyes would at least follow the rules it is a VERY SIMPLE RULE TO FOLLOW ....DONT BET .........
EXTERNAL LINK Now lets move onto to SANDOWN SYNDICATIONS ..RULES OF RACING by a Club or a single body group or person ....Promotion of GRV funds ..


Hayden Gilders
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Kevin Wright wrote:

robert conway wrote:

greg miller is a mile ahead of any other person at club level or admin. with promotion of greyhounds.

Miles ahead Hey Robby ..No one is better Hey Bud

If you have a job and you have rules regarding betting on Greyhound racing don't you think a person of such high standing as in your eyes would at least follow the rules it is a VERY SIMPLE RULE TO FOLLOW ....DONT BET .........
EXTERNAL LINK Now lets move onto to SANDOWN SYNDICATIONS ..RULES OF RACING by a Club or a single body group or person ....Promotion of GRV funds ..


Good things come to those who wait, only another one or two to move on and the industry may be in a far better place




Kevin Wright
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Hayden Gilders wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

robert conway wrote:

greg miller is a mile ahead of any other person at club level or admin. with promotion of greyhounds.

Miles ahead Hey Robby ..No one is better Hey Bud

If you have a job and you have rules regarding betting on Greyhound racing don't you think a person of such high standing as in your eyes would at least follow the rules it is a VERY SIMPLE RULE TO FOLLOW ....DONT BET .........
EXTERNAL LINK Now lets move onto to SANDOWN SYNDICATIONS ..RULES OF RACING by a Club or a single body group or person ....Promotion of GRV funds ..


Good things come to those who wait, only another one or two to move on and the industry may be in a far better place


where there is smoke there's fire as the old saying goes ..

I can almost hear the WAR DRUMS from a afar they are getting louder and louder ....

I hear these Guys applied for the new position on the GRV Board Bill and Ben the Flower pot men. Mr Noddy Dr Zeus and DR Flaming Ball
and my personal fav Mr Squiggle MD



Kevin Wright
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I draw everyone's attention to my post about Sandown Club its syndications and why it was wrong to bring Greg Miller on GRV Board ,,,

Kevin Wright

05 Jul 2018 05:50

Perceived conflict of interest....
A conflict of interest may exist even if the person involved has not acted improperly. This is called a perceived or potential conflict of interest and can be just as damaging to the club
Examples may include

The Club President also sits on the local council. The two organisations are about to become involved in a dispute about the relocation of the clubs home grounds.
One of the people on the Board recommends his sisters business for a consulting contract with the club.
A club member is asked to mediate in a dispute between two parties, one of whom is a close work colleague.
How to avoid conflicts of interest
The best strategy to avoid any conflicts of interest is to avoid situations that may lead to them occurring. This is easier said than done. The key is declaring any potential or actual conflicts of interest which may arise from your private or professional interests up front, so appropriate action can be taken to remove that conflict. The other option is to retain your position, but remove yourself from discussions and/or decisions where a conflict may exist.

In essence, it is up to each person to make decisions that are unbiased and ethical and to behave with integrity at all times when undertaking their responsibilities at their club.

How can clubs manage conflicts of interest?
Every club should include guidelines for managing potential conflicts of interest in their Code of Conduct or Code of Behaviour. The document should outline examples of the types of conflicts of interest that may occur in sporting clubs and include:

strategies designed to avoid conflicts of interest (e.g. the establishment of a team selection panel with no vested interest in the outcome, thereby resolving a parent coach of that responsibility).
policies outlining the responsibility of all club administrators and officials to disclose any real, perceived or potential conflicts of interest
the actions to be taken when a conflict of interest is identified.

I hope now people start to see what has happened from within ..

Greg Miller and Alan Clayton orchestrated moneys and deals between Sandown the GRV AND SANDOWN and spolly Syndications ...

As yet there is still NO Permit for the Sandown Greyhound FARM how many more years will this take is anyone's guess but i guess the cows are doing a great job keeping the grass growing so thats a positive .

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