The Meadows trialed there new 2Bunny lure today ...

Looking at all races i feel the Meadows 2Lure bunny did the job but i did see the Bunny get very close to the dogs in a few races but to be fair i was happy to see the2bunny back out in action as i believed it was great years ago at the old Sandown Track and i am still a supporter of it today ..

I would of prefered to see a snapback lure like in the USA but i understand not many down at Head Quarters can get there head around it but i am hopeful it will be implemented in the future .

Sandown was ok but i did see a difference in the way the dogs ran today at The Meadows possibly because i had a nice win on race 4 so followed it up with some more winners ...

I think after a few weeks The Meadows style 2 bunny lure will be rolled at a FEW tracks possibly before the end of 2019 ....

PS
The Height of the 2 bunny lure to the ground was very good IMO ...
Interested to hear feedback good or bad .....

PSS
Can anyone give us all a Update at new new Traralgon track i hear this 200 odd metre run to the first turn with a sharp bend has the masses talking ...

Can we hear something from the Club to confirm or deny this

Rich.

I am not sure how GRV or anyone else can judge good or bad as there are always overlapping influences - especially at Meadows where the lure disappears at a rate of knots around the first turn (which is why Meadows is box biased very differently to Sandown).

Having said that, I will take a stab. It seems to me that the double lure is a good thing - based on 20 races. The field appears to be a bit better separated than usual. Just a guess though.

Why this should be better than the wide hooped lure is a mystery.

What I would like to see in the end is a GRV summary of pros and cons and any other data it collects. I have little hope of seeing that as GRV never issues such reports - eg as for injuries (given to clubs but not the public), the original trials of the hooped lure and the trials and actuals for the FOL at Geelong. Apparently, we do not "need to know".

Note that GBOTA used to use a double (arm) lure at Wenty but it was hard to tell that this alone was helpful.

i think the Meadows Two lure bunny lure is a good thing and i hope Sandown switch over to it shortly sooner rather than later .

I think the Two lure works so well because of the height .
I also think if you are looking at it from a dogs angle they see what looks like natural game and they even included a cute little white tail .

I am glad they also picked the right colour for the best stimulation in a Greyhounds mind it does look very natural . IMO.

Cheers Bruce and Happy Easter ..

THE MEADOWS - TRACKING TECHNOLOGY
16/04/2019
Please note that The Meadows will resume using tracking technology from 1 May 2019 for a six month period. The technology is the same that was used in a previous trial and will be used at both Saturday and Wednesday meetings. The technology involves inserting a small tracking chip into each runners racing rugs and is not expected to cause disruption to participants per-race and post race. GRV and MGRA appreciate the cooperation of participants.

Richard,

Yes, very interesting. But what will they do with the data and will they tell us about any findings? Nothing has been said about the earlier trial.

I guess the idea is to transfer the readings electronically from the source to see what course each dog takes during the race. It would also reflect interference and therefore offer some indication of the satisfactory nature of the layout.

Even so, each piece of evidence has to be matched with known (?) habits of the individual greyhound and then collated against the actual measurements of the track (eg banking angles etc), together with injury data.

This is a huge and complex exercise but good luck to them if it works.

Note: They have been doing this for yonks in Tassie in order to establish sectional times for thoroughbreds.

I see in the meantime we're back to the lure in the middle of the track tonight..........makes a lot of sense, not !
Which begs the question, why wld you want to bet on the dogs on a consistent basis ?

I am aware of your view but how do you validate it one way or another?

With the lure close to the centre of the track, apart from the track not being originally designed to accommodate that centre track type of lure, there's:
(i) the lack of chase angle with dogs on the lure,
(ii)if you're a slow out wide runner and there's another widish runner racing outside of the lure in the centre of the track, the slow out wide runner cant win the race if it runs any wider
(iii)the dogs on the inside run out to meet the lure, then roll back towards the rail and this happens throughout the whole race causing backmarkers who come thru the field to constantly check themselves throughout the race. This self checking occurring so constantly can eventually cause a lack of chase in these dogs too. Lose /lose situation.

Whatever model they use it has to be fair racing for all dogs involved in any given race, imo the current lure model in use since the end of April 2017 doesn't provide for fair racing.

Fair racing is the key. Bugger up the basics(such as the lure), you bugger up greyhound racing and imo that's what's happened and why I don't bet on greyhounds anymore.

The Irish dogs are far more likely to handle a lure on the rail so conversely using that logic imagine Aus dogs wld likely handle a lure on the outside rail a lot better than either type wld handle a lure that's almost centre track. They race in 6 dog fields tho, that may make a difference.

Now I rated close to every race at every race meeting at the Meadows & Sandown on Wednesdays,Thursdays,Saturdays & Sundays 12 months prior to this centre track lure coming in towards the end of April'17 never(again from memory), witnessing any severe injury where a dog either broke a limb or worse by running back into a field during a race hitting the lure close to the rail..........yet they decide to change the lure for safety reasons? Where's the logic in that ?

Formula 1 drivers lose their lives(human lives), and they race on, but that doesn't mean they aren't sincerely mourned. There's some danger in any sport but trying to minimise a danger that rarely if ever exists ? Again I cant see the logic as the safety protocols were clearly already in place at Meadows & Sandown.

In the meantime win pools for example on a Sat/Thurs nite Meadows & Sandown were approx 20k before the centre track lure came to be at the end of April'17 now they are half that at these city tracks. I've even seen win pools at less than 5k. The reason we are given is that the money is still around but going thru the corporates instead of the TAB, but corporates were around well before 2017. Go figure, they've lost income to the industry for no valid reason. The only changes to racing itself was the lure. Where's the logic in that?