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Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 06 May 2019 15:09
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Hi
I've just noticed the ratings for a dog of mine I bred and race at Hove has changed. Is this due to a revision of ratings for Hove or is there a problem?
We always try to do our best with the rating and always appreciate help with track conditions and times changes. The only way we can find out about this is from input from our members.
Please email [email protected] if you have any suggestions regarding the times at your track.
Sandro, you put a lot of work into the current Australian rating and any help or suggestions you can give would be appreciated.
It should be remembered that the rating is only a guide and before purchasing any dog you should do your own homework.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 07 May 2019 10:59
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Yes I did but it needs to be maintained
To do so I would need access to that area
Werner Scholz Germany (Team Member) Posts 2370 Dogs 265122 / Races 2011955 07 May 2019 12:48
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Yes I did but it needs to be maintained
To do so I would need access to that area
Sandro, thank you. I've informed Tony about this.
Tony Gallagher Australia (Team Member) Posts 5913 Dogs 12952 / Races 40209 10 May 2019 10:36
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Yes I did but it needs to be maintained
To do so I would need access to that area
Hi Sandro, if you log out and then log in again you should have access to the Australian Track's 100% times. Please let me know if you have any problem viewing them.
Thanks Sandro for all your help.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 10 May 2019 11:54
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All good Tony
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 10 May 2019 22:42
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I've noticed the correct times are not even going on record now either. If your dog wins it's fine but if 2nd or 3rd ect their time on here isn't the same time as the offical time. Only out . 01 or 2 but this still effects ratings..
Also brandywell track ratings is shocking.. Totally ruines a dogs form on data. As even though does a good time gets
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 10 May 2019 22:44
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a very low rating.
Werner Scholz Germany (Team Member) Posts 2370 Dogs 265122 / Races 2011955 11 May 2019 07:25
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Derry's ratings all dated back to before the reopening.
These have now been changed and dated from the date of re-opening 19/04/2018
Carl Woodcock United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 23 / Races 34 16 May 2019 17:35
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you are going by the new greyhound star ratings which do not include the going!wether its a big minus or big plus yet you put the goings on your database which make up your ratings.so how can you change your ratings to now go by a guide that dont even include them,then give a rating which does?total mess.
Werner Scholz Germany (Team Member) Posts 2370 Dogs 265122 / Races 2011955 17 May 2019 04:33
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Carl Woodcock wrote:
you are going by the new greyhound star ratings which do not include the going!wether its a big minus or big plus yet you put the goings on your database which make up your ratings.so how can you change your ratings to now go by a guide that dont even include them,then give a rating which does?total mess.
Formpoints are always calculated by the estimated time which includes the going allowances.
It's always been like this on Greyhound Data
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 17 May 2019 06:01
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The data set that the Star averages have been worked out from may be too narrow to draw reliable conclusions over distances that arent standard. Also, some tracks have too few open races to be able to draw a fair conclusion. Newcastle fairs badly on this in particular.
Unless we have access to see the data set for each track and each distance we might be basing our average on a very narrow data set. For example, do we know how many opens are run over the 700 at Newcastle in the data set? If its only a handful of opens then its likely to be the top distance performers. Some of those are exceptional and do not therefore provide a fair reflection of what an average open class run might be compared with a maiden open that we commonly see at Romford for instance.
Im not satisfied that the ratings have been reduced for many tracks based on a data set that we can not scrutinise. Its obvious that ratings of 100 are much easier to achieve on some tracks now than they were before, whereas on some tracks like Newcastle they will be very difficult to achieve. Newcastle is not the only track to fair badly in the new ratings.
This is an important issue for breeders and owners as their dogs/pups have been devalued by the new rating system. Id like to see it fair for all across the Irish Sea. Its easier to achieve higher ratings for dogs in Ireland than it is in England now. Thats just my opinion of course based on scanning a few dogs that I know well which have raced in both places
Bill Webb United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 850 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 May 2019 07:40
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You are right Lynda. The Ratings were unreliable before but they are now totally misleading.
Werner Scholz Germany (Team Member) Posts 2370 Dogs 265122 / Races 2011955 18 May 2019 11:38
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Thank you all for your input and help, all track times have now been set back to how they originally were.
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 18 May 2019 17:16
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Enchanted Jaguar had earnt 2 points before you changed the ratings and then reversed the changes. During that process he has lost the 2 points he'd earnt? Can you return them please.
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