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Rehoming ideas


Brian Loughnane
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01 Jul 2019 09:31


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Now this is only an idea guys so don't go ripping it to shreds instead try give new ideas or add to my idea or even improve it...

So this is my idea to generate massive funds towards rehoming and the cost unfortunately is on us and rightly so after all they are our dogs ok the rehoming of every dog starts when its born the litter must then be registered through the igb rehoming program costing the breeder 500 the litter must also be sold through the program costing the buyer 500...breeder can not breed a litter unless he is registered with this program and buyer can not buy a pup or sapling unless he is registered with the program this will also make traceability very accurate...now my figures might be way off the charts lads but it only an example...for instance 2200 litters born averaging 5 pups per litter will generate a massive 6,600,000 per year...even to cut these figures in half it would still be a huge help towards rehoming...


Nathan Absalom
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02 Jul 2019 11:01


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Brian,

I don't think you need to re-invent the wheel here. Most jurisdictions with greyhound racing have largely solved this problem. The UK with the greyhound trust, the US do it through their tracks and Victoria, and now NSW, have very strong adoption programs run by the authority.

Here in NSW it was largely a financial problem where the old governing body hadn't appreciated the importance of welfare reforms.

I would suggest that whoever runs the joint in Ireland take the time to find out how other jurisdictions handle their adoption programs before tailoring a solution that works locally. Co-operating with local charities didn't work here as well as it did elsewhere, for instance.

But when you've turned everything around in under 5 years, just don't expect any of your critics in the press admit they were wrong and that people could turn things round. That, I guarantee, won't happen.



Francis Walsh
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02 Jul 2019 18:13


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most breeders are going out of the game ,telling them to pay an extra e500 per litter will push everyone out.



Brian Loughnane
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02 Jul 2019 18:55


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Wouldn't push me out I'd gladly pay it... have ye any good ideas guys..



Tony Gallagher
Australia
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03 Jul 2019 03:18


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If the figures Sean Bourke quoted in his radio interview are correct, the answer is simple. Reduce administration costs and increase the money allocated for welfare from 100,000 euro to 3 million euro.

EXTERNAL LINK

Continually asking the grass roots greyhound people to take cuts or to dip into the little money they have will only result in more welfare problems as eventually they will not have enough to feed their dogs.

Brian, if prizemoney was dramatically increased right across the board your idea would carry merit but unfortunately this is not the case.

Every aspect of expenditure needs to be examined and money saved wherever possible.


Shane Paul Patterson
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03 Jul 2019 06:19


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I agree. Letting the breeder pick up another tab is not the answer to the igb's lack of action to the negativity that's portrayed in the media for years of the minority of owners, which has resulted in lack of attendances. I think greyhound racing in Ireland is at a crossroads, but i hope can thrive once again, but at its main focus has to be the welfare and care of greyhounds long after its racing career is over, or people simply wont attend tracks otherwise! Simply a new era is needed! And it needs to be put out there! on a par with the negativity that is shown by anti greyhound racing groups.



Brian Loughnane
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03 Jul 2019 08:12


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Excellent respond Tony the biggest problem we have is getting this across to the board....Tony if only we could get you on the board...



Tony Gallagher
Australia
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03 Jul 2019 09:03


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LOL, no thanks.

Brian, it has to go this way and after the recent TV show the public will put pressure on the politicians who in turn will put pressure on the board. The board are now it a very hard position as sponsors will pull out, the public as well as those involved in the sport will want answers. There is two solution:

1. Turn the pyramid structure we now have so that the welfare of the greyhounds is on the top, or:

2. Stop Greyhound Racing.

Lets hope everyone in the sport can forget all personal vendettas and agendas and move forward together in a positive way. Greyhound racing did end in NSW, Australia for a short period so anyone thinking "It won't happen in Ireland" is fooling themselves.

As stated earlier we are at a crossroad, lets hope we take the right path.


Bruce Teague
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04 Jul 2019 02:02


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Tony,

Interesting thoughts - but it's not the right analogy. Try horses and carts.

1. Welfare is already at the top of administrators' thoughts and actions - by government decree.

2. Consequently, they tend to look for brownie points only in the welfare area.

3. This is a business, not a welfare organisation, but to run a good business you must look after your stock as well as do other things. Management is a package deal.

4. If conventional management measures are downgraded or overlooked the business will suffer, and therefore deliver smaller resources to handle welfare.

5. The welfare position is clouded because of inconsistency in allocating resources to a few measures over others. The prime examples are poorly designed trips or tracks where high interference is virtually guaranteed but management attention is weak.

6. The industry has paid little attention to convincing the public that the canine athlete is always going to be subject to injury, albeit that they get far more and better attention than any other animal bar racehorses. Injuries affect family pets in the backyard, footballers on the weekend, or even occur from accidental or incidental causes. To say nothing about animals in the wild.

The desirable outcome is safe and profitable racing. Both are necessary.




Tony Gallagher
Australia
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04 Jul 2019 03:18


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Hi Bruce, I have lived in Ireland and spent the last 26 years in Europe. Ireland is a very special place for me, remember my surname is Gallagher. I fully understand what is happening in Ireland and my analogy is spot on.

Did you even watch the programme on Irish TV re welfare? Bruce in this instance you are 100% wrong.

The grass roots Irish greyhound owners, trainers and adoption groups are fighting to have massive changes made which are required to keep the sport going in Ireland.


Aiden Nicoll
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04 Jul 2019 13:37


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The state gives the igb around 16 million each year...12 million goes on wages,and pensions....this is the area that funds should come from.for our rehoming...igb recently gave a extra 100 euro ,with immediate effect to foster careers off our dogs..and are currently looking for more foster homes...I dont know how much a person gets per dog.someone may enlighten us on what the igb ,thinks it costs to keep a dog...


Clive Padwick
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05 Jul 2019 04:28


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One simple way of generating more money for welfare would be for greyhound racing to cut its tyes to the Irish Coursing Club. I for one strongly object to paying a small fortune to register a litter or even change the dogs name or ownership just to finance a sport i.e. coursing in which like many racing people l have no interest whatsoever. I would remind everyone that it is no longer 1927 and that all admin registration could be set up directly with the IGB on line using digital photography and racing books could be dispensed with. Identification for racing could be achieved by scanning the micro chip which all racing dogs are obliged to have. All registration charges could be allocated to welfare. These days it is easy enough to tax or insure a car on line so surely we could register a greyhound in a similar way. Another advantage could be that if racing cut its tyes to a blood sport it might be one small step to improving the reputation of racing with the general public.


Billy Kiely
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07 Jul 2019 20:08


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One or two euro from each 10 received at every track turnstile could be given to a rehoming fund. The public could be made aware that their entry fee contributes to welfare
Also benefit nights towards the rehoming fund should be held at all tracks throughout the year.

Last time I was in Oz people with retired dogs were present inside the the stand in Wentworth park. It was a great way of allowing people to meet ex racers and promote them. Kids and adults were very enthused. I've never seen it here but its a great touch.




Peter Davis
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10 Aug 2019 18:28


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No ttony stop the ones that are giveing greyhound raceing a bad name ban them also a ban for life let see if thing get better then think that would solve some sponser problems as well think they would get behind raceing again

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