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Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 10 May 2016 19:07
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When their own Head of Governance and Compliance stated that the equipment in the limerick laboratory was old and needs to be upgraded, that IMO tells its own story it is not fit for purpose.
Joe Mc Gorrey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1292 Dogs 2 / Races 0 10 May 2016 19:12
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Alison Coxon wrote:
I will not post again on this topic, i'm tired of going around in circles trying to show the truth and going over the same things again and again. All evidence on the substance has already been provided many months back. And all questions have been answered. The facts are that the truth doesn't hurt at all, the truth never hurt anyone, we can handle the truth. What hurts is lies and false accusations. If you can't beat someone then accuse them. The thing is in a fair and just society the truth normally comes out in the end. So my girl had one bad meal, she didn't win the race, she didn't improve her performance, so get over it and move on to your next victim.
alision i dont blame you for not replying again i know its not easy explaining yourself all the time having to answer and answer to us its your trainer that needs to come on here and explain himself imho i blame him for everything its him thats handling your dog he knows what feeding the dog gets etc
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 10 May 2016 19:21
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joe mc gorrey wrote:
Alison Coxon wrote:
I will not post again on this topic, i'm tired of going around in circles trying to show the truth and going over the same things again and again. All evidence on the substance has already been provided many months back. And all questions have been answered. The facts are that the truth doesn't hurt at all, the truth never hurt anyone, we can handle the truth. What hurts is lies and false accusations. If you can't beat someone then accuse them. The thing is in a fair and just society the truth normally comes out in the end. So my girl had one bad meal, she didn't win the race, she didn't improve her performance, so get over it and move on to your next victim.
alision i dont blame you for not replying again i know its not easy explaining yourself all the time having to answer and answer to us its your trainer that needs to come on here and explain himself imho i blame him for everything its him thats handling your dog he knows what feeding the dog gets etc
Joe,Alison appears to have real conviction in what she says and is genuine but, i'm of the opinion now that perhaps she is being fed as much bull**** as the bitch has been fed bad beef.....
My god the hypocrisy of the above posts in unbelievable being honest. Stephen I do not think many will give your opinion much thought after your antics on this thread. UNBELIEVABLE. More so considering what is in the public domain!!!
Joe Mc Gorrey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1292 Dogs 2 / Races 0 10 May 2016 22:21
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Stephen fishwick wrote:
Who gives a shit about your opinion?
stephen why did you say that???
David Standbridge Ireland (Verified User) Posts 146 Dogs 14 / Races 0 11 May 2016 07:23
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It is up to IGB, not Alison or Graham, to publish the results of the retests, adverse or not. Then we all have clarity as to whether or not a dog is eligible to run. It would also be expected that the "clearance" samples are tested at the same lab as the first ones.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 May 2016 08:59
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David Standbridge wrote:
It is up to IGB, not Alison or Graham, to publish the results of the retests, adverse or not. Then we all have clarity as to whether or not a dog is eligible to run. It would also be expected that the "clearance" samples are tested at the same lab as the first ones.
David, the control committee are independent and are not answerable to the IGB, [PURE JOKE] they only publish what they deem fit so do not be expecting any publications regarding pentobarbital cases , if they do not publish results from those hearings I would suggest that no more samples are given until this board are gone along with the control committee. JMO.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 May 2016 12:20
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Control Committee Reports We would all like to see the May reports from the control committee regarding pentobarbital , lets hope the control committee are on top of their game with this ones and no one escapes some sort of punishment for feeding contaminated meat. No more excuses.
Control Committee Report - February 2016 Control Committee Report - October 2015 Control Committee Report - July 2015 Control Committee Report - April 2015 Control Committee Report - February 2015 Control Committee Report - December 2014
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 12 May 2016 12:24
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Would not be suprised if they all walk free
As it seems the blind is leading the blind
1 off them is acting stupid poor me i didnt know (it was in the meat)
And the other hasnt a clue if it is or not and doesnt know what to do about it
So under reasonable doubt in a court they will prob all walk away with no punishment
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 May 2016 13:09
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That would not surprise me one bit Peter, I would be very surprised if thresholds and tolerances were not a factor in this pentobarbital hearings, if it is the case that all those trainers who tested positive for pentobarbital escape sanctions I would be urging all owners to stop giving samples as it is one rule for the big boys and another for the wee man.JMO.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 May 2016 15:23
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Another day at the office for the control committee, owner of greyhound who returned a positive sample for Pentobarbital has being told by control committee that he has no case to answer, when asked by the committee where he gets his meat he could not tell them his suppliers name, this is unbelievable stuff, I wonder what the meat suppliers have to say about this, One way to find out is to ring them and ask which I intend to do as this is totally unacceptable IMO.
Dave, they should have a meat feeder licence, which tells all and sundry, where they got the meat from, how much did they purchase, and how much have they used. Date, supplier etc all on the form. If he cant supply it then its the law in Ireland to have this, the Dept of Agriculture should be informed
Stephen Fishwick Ireland (Verified User) Posts 122 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2016 20:19
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Is oliver canavan a big trainer or a little trainer?
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2016 20:35
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Hi Geoff, IMO there is no point posting about this trainer or that trainer anymore while we have a board who are deliberately covering up positive samples to protect their friends who have done nothing but cheat their way to stardom and becoming media superstars, What in the name of God are the CEO and Head of Governance and Compliance & head of Welfare doing to clean this shambolic mess up, they are doing nothing IMO to rid the sport of Drugs, they are all part of the IGB and should be held accountable for this latest cock up, the chairman of any company is the one who has to take responsibility for any failures within his company and my God there have been plenty of them in the last 5 years, IMHO if we do not take serious measures to clear out this bunch of failures we will see tracks closing sooner than you all think and that will only be the start of more bad decisions from this pathetic board of planks.
Stephen Fishwick Ireland (Verified User) Posts 122 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2016 20:41
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Is oliver canavan a big trainer or a little trainer
Peter McGorrey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1018 Dogs 10 / Races 0 13 May 2016 20:52
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Stephen fishwick wrote:
Is oliver canavan a big trainer or a little trainer
Why do you ask Stephen
Stephen Fishwick Ireland (Verified User) Posts 122 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2016 20:54
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Just turned up a positive in english derby
Joe Mc Gorrey United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1292 Dogs 2 / Races 0 13 May 2016 21:10
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i wouldnt believe one word of it stephen why are you so bad hearted
Stephen Fishwick Ireland (Verified User) Posts 122 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2016 21:18
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Its on racing post site
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 13 May 2016 21:34
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Stephen fishwick wrote:
Its on racing post site
Stephen,do you agree with this swift publication of positives??
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