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Pat Finn Ireland (Verified User) Posts 278 Dogs 3 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 20:37
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Dave Lonergan wrote:
not really,, all my life playing hurling .and rugby and football up until age 44 i'd take anti imflammatories to ease soreness and stiffness it didn't improve me what so ever and didn't hurt me either and i'm sure you know what I mean and might have done it yourself
Think you need to do a bit of research on that theory and you will find out that statement is not true , anyway it has nothing to do with this serious topic
Philip Fennelly Ireland (Verified User) Posts 224 Dogs 16 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 20:42
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they should be no crap excuses if its on the banned list its banned full stop...
Dave Lonergan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3410 Dogs 18 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 20:56
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Philip Fennelly wrote:
they should be no crap excuses if its on the banned list its banned full stop...
well that's a very good point its on the list for reason
Dave Lonergan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3410 Dogs 18 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 21:03
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Pat Finn wrote:
Dave Lonergan wrote:
not really,, all my life playing hurling .and rugby and football up until age 44 i'd take anti imflammatories to ease soreness and stiffness it didn't improve me what so ever and didn't hurt me either and i'm sure you know what I mean and might have done it yourself
Think you need to do a bit of research on that theory and you will find out that statement is not true , anyway it has nothing to do with this serious topic
well Pat you could be right but thats my own experience with using anti imflammatories on myself.. by the way i'm all for the petition if no one noticed..anything yhat moves the industry forward is good and hope this achieves something good for all
they should be no crap excuses if its on the banned list its banned full stop...
well that's a very good point its on the list for reason
Where is the list published?
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 21:49
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Dave Lonergan wrote:
well if it happens its time to get out that's the point..and isn't the point of your petition to eliminate this shyte to level the playing field.. and learn some manners no need need to be ignorant
Dave I didn't mean to come across as ignorant to your post but lets take one step at a time and try to gain some momentum on the petition first ,then worry about the fast times.
John Daniels Ireland (Verified User) Posts 613 Dogs 3 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 21:57
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Dave Cunningham wrote:
Dave Lonergan wrote:
well if it happens its time to get out that's the point..and isn't the point of your petition to eliminate this shyte to level the playing field.. and learn some manners no need need to be ignorant
Dave I didn't mean to come across as ignorant to your post but lets take one step at a time and try to gain some momentum on the petition first ,then worry about the fast times.
your right , best to stay focused on the positive samples
Dave Lonergan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3410 Dogs 18 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 21:59
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Dave Cunningham wrote:
Dave Lonergan wrote:
well if it happens its time to get out that's the point..and isn't the point of your petition to eliminate this shyte to level the playing field.. and learn some manners no need need to be ignorant
Dave I didn't mean to come across as ignorant to your post but lets take one step at a time and try to gain some momentum on the petition first ,then worry about the fast times.
no harm no foul Dave i was off topic and i apologise i get carried away going through Cabin fever i guess... your heart is in thev right place
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 22:09
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Welcome back Dave ,and no harm done ,We have now reached 440 signatures with another week in hand I am sure we will pass the 500 goal with ease ,this will be a great result for every one who chose to sign the petition and move forward,
PLEASE KEEP SIGNING AND LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Feb 2014 22:35
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paul quilty wrote:
Should the ispca not be called in as drugging dogs has to be against animal welfare and they should remove the dog from the owner trainer. And why is Barry Coleman so quiet is he not on charge of greyhound welfare
Paul ,I totally agree that the ISPCA should be called in on this matter , but regarding Barry Colman ,he is doing a marvellous job on the welfare of our greyhounds and only for Barry there would be many greyhounds on another planet ,But I am sure that if we got in contact with the man he would explain the situation clearly.
they should be no crap excuses if its on the banned list its banned full stop...
well that's a very good point its on the list for reason
Where is the list published? bump
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 10:44
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Top 2013 Irish Public Trainers based on Prize Money 1. Paul Hennessy 212,227 2. Owen Mckenna 205,920 3. Peter Cronin 78,640 4. Liam O'Rourke 61,129 5. Frances O'Donnell 57,315 6. John Mcgee 56,030 7. Ra chel Wheeler 47,224 8. Niall Dunne 46,732
With the money these trainers have earned from greyhound racing you think they would have shown more interest and taken part and signed our petition .
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 11:03
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We need more signatures so any one with names please contact me and I will put them up .thanks
Please sign our petition as it is very important for our sport.
Tony Micks Ireland (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 2 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 13:11
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lads it seems to me reading some of the commets on this topic and the holland topic that some people are defending the use of drugs .this chat saying dont be hounding the man as he had one positve out of 800 and odd races. i say bull if your are caught your are a cheat and there is no place in this sport for you and the other doping dopes. keep up the good work dave
I am still waiting to hear where this list of substances that are prohibited can be found.
It seems to me unless such a list exists with recommended withdrawal periods relating to simple helpful drugs such as anti inflammatory etc how can someone be called a cheat. In my fathers time everyone gave the dogs a strong drink of tea to pick them up after a hard course now a days everyone knows it was caffeine and it cant be given but back then it was just a strong cup of tea. To be a cheat the person must be trying to cheat.
I'll be honest I did not realise if I had a dog with a bit of soreness I could not try to ease the pain with anti inflammatories, the same as I would have done for myself when I played a bit of rugby or boxed. Back then I would have often rubbed some of the gels containing Ibuprofen into sore muscles of my own but no thought or intention to cheat. Granted it was usually a day or two before I played again and if it was a bad hurt I would miss the match or contest.
It seems to me it is more cruel not to treat your dog. Fair enough if it is a prohibited drug then I wont use it IF I KNOW ITS PROHIBITED. BUT I have no idea what is prohibited and I have asked on here several times and no one has told me where the list is published. Also surely there should be a list and guidance of withdrawal times otherwise are we being told not to treat or dogs if they are mildly hurt? This must be insanity and bordering on animal cruelty.
Tony Micks Ireland (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 2 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 16:34
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seamus just type into google banned drugs in greyhound racing click on best practice guide igb and go to page 34 35
Michael O'Keeffe Ireland (Verified User) Posts 219 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 16:36
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tony micks wrote:
lads it seems to me reading some of the commets on this topic and the holland topic that some people are defending the use of drugs .this chat saying dont be hounding the man as he had one positve out of 800 and odd races. i say bull if your are caught your are a cheat and there is no place in this sport for you and the other doping dopes. keep up the good work dave
well said tony he who dips his wick must pay for the oil in other words if you are caught cheating put them out and their should be a list of cheats put up for all to see and owners take your dogs out of their kennels ban them for 6 months and fine them 2000 euro that might stop them no more excuses keep up the good work Dave with you all the way
Would it be worth Greyhound data creating a link at the start of the forum chats which would be held there for reference? I imagine there are loads like me who knew nothing about this.
Charlie Deery United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 195 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 17:14
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Seamus McCloskey wrote:
Seamus McCloskey wrote:
Dave Lonergan wrote:
Philip Fennelly wrote:
they should be no crap excuses if its on the banned list its banned full stop...
well that's a very good point its on the list for reason
Where is the list published? bump
Should the list not be on the igb Website
Mary Crotty Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1116 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Feb 2014 17:23
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I gave a dog one nurofen because his kennell companion took a little nip out of him, he was called for testing on the night lucky the dog would not pee he would have tested postive and me branded a cheat... ...
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