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Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 20:50
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Des keep a couple just in case your put in with the big guns and your needed to fill the box ,
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 20:53
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Over 300 signatures now and more on the way ,keep signing and posting lads ,great work.
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 21 Jan 2014 20:56
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des smith wrote:
control committee at the min are a joke. I get fined 250 euro last Friday 17/01/2014 for not returning a dog to kennels for a 3rd time for a urine sample, in hx on the 18/09/2012.He didn't pee before his race,he didn't pee after his race,put back in kennels for 3 races then taken out and walked for 15 mins still didn't pee then told id have to put him back in for another 3 races,i said your having a laugh that I have a drive of 1 and a half hours home. I was then told to walk him in the car park and I did,still no pee so I said I was going home.I all so offerd a blood sample but this fell on deaf ears.steward on the night (JOHN NOLAN) told my son who was walking the dog for his race that if the dog was walked proper he would pee?????.I have been racing since 2005 and till this day I have never had a positive and NEVER REFUSED to give a sample and just to rub salt in it a big trainer was in before me and walked away scott free. (Edited By Admin)
Des,who was the "big trainer" that had hearing just before you?? Non publication positives is clearly wrong but happened on the night was surely down to a tit of a steward and hardly grounds to lampaste the gb.....
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 21:17
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Michael who employs the track stewards?
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 21 Jan 2014 21:30
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Dave Cunningham wrote:
Michael who employs the track stewards?
i'l stand corrected but think there i.c.c stewards
Des Smith Ireland (Verified User) Posts 221 Dogs 21 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 21:54
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michael de ward wrote:
des smith wrote:
control committee at the min are a joke. I get fined 250 euro last Friday 17/01/2014 for not returning a dog to kennels for a 3rd time for a urine sample, in hx on the 18/09/2012.He didn't pee before his race,he didn't pee after his race,put back in kennels for 3 races then taken out and walked for 15 mins still didn't pee then told id have to put him back in for another 3 races,i said your having a laugh that I have a drive of 1 and a half hours home. I was then told to walk him in the car park and I did,still no pee so I said I was going home.I all so offerd a blood sample but this fell on deaf ears.steward on the night (JOHN NOLAN) told my son who was walking the dog for his race that if the dog was walked proper he would pee?????.I have been racing since 2005 and till this day I have never had a positive and NEVER REFUSED to give a sample and just to rub salt in it a big trainer was in before me and walked away scott free. (Edited By Admin)
Des,who was the "big trainer" that had hearing just before you?? Non publication positives is clearly wrong but happened on the night was surely down to a tit of a steward and hardly grounds to lampaste the gb.....
now Michael im not a smart man but im not a fool either.belive me id love to name and shame but I want to keep the shirt on my back
Tom Foley Ireland (Verified User) Posts 56 Dogs 5 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 22:04
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The needed the 250euro to pay that big trainers traveling expences.
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 21 Jan 2014 22:11
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des smith wrote:
michael de ward wrote:
des smith wrote:
control committee at the min are a joke. I get fined 250 euro last Friday 17/01/2014 for not returning a dog to kennels for a 3rd time for a urine sample, in hx on the 18/09/2012.He didn't pee before his race,he didn't pee after his race,put back in kennels for 3 races then taken out and walked for 15 mins still didn't pee then told id have to put him back in for another 3 races,i said your having a laugh that I have a drive of 1 and a half hours home. I was then told to walk him in the car park and I did,still no pee so I said I was going home.I all so offerd a blood sample but this fell on deaf ears.steward on the night (JOHN NOLAN) told my son who was walking the dog for his race that if the dog was walked proper he would pee?????.I have been racing since 2005 and till this day I have never had a positive and NEVER REFUSED to give a sample and just to rub salt in it a big trainer was in before me and walked away scott free. (Edited By Admin)
Des,who was the "big trainer" that had hearing just before you?? Non publication positives is clearly wrong but happened on the night was surely down to a tit of a steward and hardly grounds to lampaste the gb.....
now Michael im not a smart man but im not a fool either.belive me id love to name and shame but I want to keep the shirt on my back
but sure des all ya be saying is who else was in for hearing, ya not sayin ought else....
Philip Fennelly Ireland (Verified User) Posts 224 Dogs 16 / Races 0 21 Jan 2014 22:42
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I heard a rumour today that a certain trainer was advised to put the dogs in his wifes name before the poo hits the fan
Wayne Osullivan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2414 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 06:05
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Philip Fennelly wrote:
I heard a rumour today that a certain trainer was advised to put the dogs in his wifes name before the poo hits the fan
Now this blog has got a mention in the papers somethings going to hit the fan, well done Dave.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 06:18
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Philip Fennelly wrote:
I heard a rumour today that a certain trainer was advised to put the dogs in his wifes name before the poo hits the fan
Same as going bankrupt change to another name, an earlier post said this should not be allowed ,they should be banned and the dogs he has in training banned as well ,owners would get fed up when no dogs running and move on ,one way forward , and get rid of the cheats at same time. happy days.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 06:28
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Maybe the IGB could look at implementing this rule quickly , that you cannot change greyhounds in training to a member of family if you have been caught for banned substances ,this would be a very good step forward for the board , and restore some faith.
Barry Coppard Ireland (Verified User) Posts 766 Dogs 46 / Races 1 22 Jan 2014 13:09
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Out of interest Dave, how many of the top 10 trainers have signed your petition?
John Brennan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1252 Dogs 21 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 14:56
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ill take a guess barry ill say none beacuse there all at it and as for des i hope you told them where to go for there 250e and as for that trainer you he meet coming out of his hearing that got away with a positave test hes a lucky man he met you and not me beacuse if he met me i would have no problem nameing the cheat thats the problem with our great sport people scared to speek out in case the racing manager reads it or is told but sit in the tracks week in week out bitching about different things
John Murray Ireland (Verified User) Posts 473 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 15:24
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Yes DAVE,I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE ALL DOGS IN THAT TRAINERS KENNEL SHOULD BE BANNED FOR SIX MONTHS ,THE OWNERS WILL NOT BE TO HAPPY THEN WILL THEY ,THEN THEY CAN CHANGE THEM TO THE WIFE,DAUGHTER OR SONS NAME, BUT THOSE DOGS NAMED STILL CAN NOT RUN,PROBLEM SOLVED. BUT HAVE THE BOARD THE GUTS TO DO THAT?
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 22 Jan 2014 15:46
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john brennan wrote:
ill take a guess barry ill say none beacuse there all at it and as for des i hope you told them where to go for there 250e and as for that trainer you he meet coming out of his hearing that got away with a positave test hes a lucky man he met you and not me beacuse if he met me i would have no problem nameing the cheat thats the problem with our great sport people scared to speek out in case the racing manager reads it or is told but sit in the tracks week in week out bitching about different things
Spot on john.... Gb after board havent addressed this issue atall... it aint that long ago since the then board came out and said non publication of positive tests of dogs in "big trainers" care was for "the good of the game".... and now here we are,again!!!!!!!
I wondered why you put all your dogs up for sale Des. Sorry to hear you are leaving.
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 16:12
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Barry Coppard wrote:
Out of interest Dave, how many of the top 10 trainers have signed your petition?
Hi Barry , I sent a pm to one trainer who has an add on classifieds but never got no response from him ,not a tall surprised but he will here from me again .
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 16:37
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Hi John ,the board are in a very bad place at the minute ,and they have to move very carefully on certain issues, this being one of them , but if they were to go down this road it would help their causes no end and you would see a decrease with people leaving the sport ,we as owners and breeders cant change the rules but we can put suggestions to the board for them to look into, they must know and see where the problems lie and its up to them to rectify what is clearly not working , and the quicker they move the better for them.
John Murray Ireland (Verified User) Posts 473 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 Jan 2014 16:52
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Dave ,the Board are in a very bad place of there own making and it seems to be getting worse by the day, it is now up to THEM to make the proper changes to our sport or let a new board come in and do what they seem very reluctant to do.ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THERE HAS BEEN NO ACTION. MOST GREYHOUND PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BOARD TO GET BEHIND, I'M SHURE. DON'T FORGET THEY ARE VERY WELL PAID PEOPLE.THEY HAD NO PROBLEM PRINTING THE NAMES OF THE ORDINARY OWNER TRAINER WITH A FEW DOGS.
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