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John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Aug 2014 13:54
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Grant it's ok for you guys to come and praise a dog in a 3 dog field but it's not ok to criticize do you honestly think that is a fair suck of the Sav he has been getting knocked off in 5th grade fields of late so what he set a record at Bulli yes it would be nice to have a dog with that ability but not with his hangups and the dog has issues anything that can break 25 at Maitland over the 450m has heaps of ability so what do you put that last run at Maitland down to I say Issue what is your opinion
Nathan Auld Australia (Verified User) Posts 438 Dogs 8 / Races 3 27 Aug 2014 13:57
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John McAlister wrote:
So they have waved the rule of a minimum of 4 strs before the record is recognised ..oh well another for stud wow Dime for the proverbial Dozen ...and there is more it was a 5th grade 3 dogger
You are a joke! The last thing I am going to do is send him to stud. He is a race dog, he is my dog. He loves to race, I love racing him.... You talk so much shit it's not funny, none of your business what we do with him
Nathan Auld Australia (Verified User) Posts 438 Dogs 8 / Races 3 27 Aug 2014 13:59
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John McAlister wrote:
Grant it's ok for you guys to come and praise a dog in a 3 dog field but it's not ok to criticize do you honestly think that is a fair suck of the Sav he has been getting knocked off in 5th grade fields of late so what he set a record at Bulli yes it would be nice to have a dog with that ability but not with his hangups and the dog has issues anything that can break 25 at Maitland over the 450m has heaps of ability so what do you put that last run at Maitland down to I say Issue what is your opinion
And that proves it, your a wanker.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Aug 2014 14:09
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Well what are you stuffing about chasing a grand here and there when a dog with that ability should be pitting its skills against the best in Sydney not the chumps at the provincials ....do tell are you another Nathan, that can handle the plaudits but not the knocks ...shame on you for calling me the Wanker maybe your looking in the wrong mirror
Nathan Auld Australia (Verified User) Posts 438 Dogs 8 / Races 3 27 Aug 2014 14:16
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John McAlister wrote:
Well what are you stuffing about chasing a grand here and there when a dog with that ability should be pitting its skills against the best in Sydney not the chumps ate the provincials ....do tell are you another Nathan, that can handle the plaudits but not the knocks ...shame on you for calling me the Wanker maybe your looking in the wrong mirror
If you had as much of an idea as you tell everyone you have, you would know exactly why we are racing him on the provincials ATM. I can take all the knockers! What do you think I've been doing the last 6 weeks??? There is a big difference between telling it how it IS and bagging the dog. Look after yours and we'll do the same.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Aug 2014 14:32
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Nathan I'm not bagging your dog far from it that dog has a stack of ability and it must be very frustrating so there is no need to knock my knowledge of the Greyhound.In this Industry today there is always the knockers and if you read what and who I wrote it to you will see that I was stating a rule about setting track records and I can assure you I don't take too much notice of records on these sand tracks of today.As far as I'm concerned you have done the right thing by stepping him up in distance and just maybe the dog will gain confidence from that run and a few more on that big track I've watched his races at Maitland when he was a moral beat and he was climbing over the backs of dogs and that's the hard part of this game there are dogs out there that can run a solid 1st 200m of a 400m race and as a rule if you have a dog that is in behind them well trouble becomes the issue how do you overcome the problem maybe try him uo the straight 366 for a few trials while he is freshened up and taken away from the tin hare ....maybe then take him down to Healesville I think the Cup will be coming up down there ...you can get a lift with me if you like that's if you can put up with an old Wanker
Nathan Auld Australia (Verified User) Posts 438 Dogs 8 / Races 3 27 Aug 2014 15:02
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:-) The thing is your comment about it only being a 3 dog race and you don't rate the record is what gets under my skin. It was the first litter I've ever bred and reared so its a pretty big deal to me! In the end as I said he loves to race and the only thing that is worrying Darren and I is his box manners in some instances. He came out running last night and it wouldn't of mattered if there was a dozen dogs in it he still would of won the way he did. The fella on the lead is one of nsw's best conditioners don't you worry and he's got full support from us to do whatever he likes with the dog.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 27 Aug 2014 17:39
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Nathan congratulations on him running a track record even in a trial it's an amazing feat, realistically this three dog field was a performance trial so I can see where John is owing from is that plenty have broken records in a trial yet to do in an 8 dog field Is not the be all and end all with breaking a record as people can always complain about the quality of the fields. A track record is a track record in my opinion and it simply shows the genetic ability of a dog.
Must be a huge thrill to have taken him every step of the way. Every good dog has there problems and your boy seemed to be a bit off for a while there but good to see he is back to what his early for suggested. Hope he cracks a group race for you!
John don't jump the gun on past history of people running to stud after a track record or group win, I admire that Nathan wants to race on.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 27 Aug 2014 22:16
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G'day Nathan
Congrats on the record
He and his littermates are a credit to you and there is no bigger thrill to breed and race a superior class of dog IMHO
He is still only 24 months of age, which is what a lot of people tend to forget.
He has done so much up to now and I think he is really going to start putting it together
Enjoy racing him, he will give you plenty of thrills yet.
Good dogs do that.
Peter Baker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1391 Dogs 7 / Races 3 27 Aug 2014 22:31
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As I said in a earlier post this dog has got Group races with his name on them, that's right Sandro people forget he's only 24 months old and the scary thing is we haven't seen the best of him yet so congrats to Nathan & Darren.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 27 Aug 2014 22:44
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Nathan Auld wrote:
John McAlister wrote:
Grant it's ok for you guys to come and praise a dog in a 3 dog field but it's not ok to criticize do you honestly think that is a fair suck of the Sav he has been getting knocked off in 5th grade fields of late so what he set a record at Bulli yes it would be nice to have a dog with that ability but not with his hangups and the dog has issues anything that can break 25 at Maitland over the 450m has heaps of ability so what do you put that last run at Maitland down to I say Issue what is your opinion
And that proves it, your a wanker.
u need to respect that people r allowed to have an opinion. I think its ok to question a dogs run if it warrants it without being abused. might not be nice to hear it as an owner, but u learn to take the good with the bad imo. yes the fact he isn't jumping too flash is not helping him, but they r not machines either, they can have off days sometimes.
hope u get plenty more joy from watching your dog run. he is one slick greyhound. I'd love to know how it feels, lol. my quick ones break a leg before making the track or don't chase.
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 27 Aug 2014 23:20
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I would love to have a dog as good as him in my kennel and what a great young trainer he has this young fellow takes his dogs every where well done boys.he will win pleny more races that's for sure and a group race is not beyond this dog im certane.
Jeff Crawford Australia (Verified User) Posts 238 Dogs 12 / Races 0 28 Aug 2014 00:15
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Congrats Nathan & Darren on an outstanding performance last nite in breaking the Bulli record.
I remember when this dog had his final break-in run at Glengarrie and it has been onwards and upwards ever since. He is a special animal and I think the best is yet to come for this bloke.
Jeff.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 28 Aug 2014 02:28
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broken in by one of the better breakers in sydney ,his box speed is genetic and its a shame we cant all have lid pingers because if he came out better many track records would fall.Well done for breeding this speed machine.
Michaele Alderdice Australia (Verified User) Posts 569 Dogs 0 / Races 1 28 Aug 2014 02:47
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go the effective great dog and very good trainer the easiest thousand a dog could earn and a record broken in running great training peformance in my opinion congrats nathan and darren
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 28 Aug 2014 06:44
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The full feild for the race IMHO would NOT have changed the result...places maybe but not the time...
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 28 Aug 2014 06:50
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Grant do you say things to get a bite lol how can you make a statement like that there were 3 dogs in the race so it was never going to be an 8 dog field after the scratchings but to say the dog would've won anyhow is a little over the top yes the dog would have still won still run the record but no guarantee that the other 2 dogs that finished second and third would have finished in a place what are you trying to say they were legless
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 28 Aug 2014 07:19
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John McAlister wrote:
Grant do you say things to get a bite lol how can you make a statement like that there were 3 dogs in the race so it was never going to be an 8 dog field after the scratchings but to say the dog would've won anyhow is a little over the top yes the dog would have still won still run the record but no guarantee that the other 2 dogs that finished second and third would have finished in a place what are you trying to say they were legless
Can ANYONE please explain what John just posted...???
Yes 5 scrathing...Yes IMHO he still would have won in that time...maybe MAYBE IF the other 5 ran the placs could have changed THAT'S ALL I've said...I have NO idea what your on about...
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 28 Aug 2014 07:20
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" so what he set a record at Bulli "...
IMHO...your joking right...???...!!!
Nick Grimley Australia (Verified User) Posts 305 Dogs 2 / Races 0 28 Aug 2014 08:53
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james saunders wrote:
his box speed is genetic
Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion, I accept that.......but this is a statement of fact, not an opinion. Could you please justify your statement??
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
