Each vial has between 14 to 18 pellets compared to 8 and 9 pellets that were all sold by Andy Lord and his partner.

Each vials i sell i know exactly how many pellets and his best draws ...

Every vial i sold i rang up each person and gave them a second vial to use as one breeding unit .

I have single units and double Vials for sale ..

I still give a 100% return serve regardless if the dog is dead for 10 years i will still offer the FULL 100% FREE RETURN REGARDLESS of what rules other stud masters use i will always honour returns ..

Buy from me and you get a Return as long as you own that vial ...

I have even replaced third party Returns so i cannot be any fairer ....

Kiowa Mon Manny is a Sire of sires his grandsons are now starting to attract some of the best broods in the land ...

His Bitches are now producing some of the fastests dogs in the USA ....

Eyes Appealing

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Barcia Bale
Kiowa Sweet Trey
Ashton Dee Bee
Fernando Bale
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All of these Bloodlines above suit Kiowa Mon Manny has consistently produced the cream of the cream in US Racing year after year .

If your damline gets excited or is a bit over the top then Kiowa Mon Manny throws his best traits over these kinds of bloodlines ....

His Sons Daughters Grandsons and Great Granddaughters are still throwing on really strong today.

Maybe things did not go off with a bang but I feel Kiowa Mon Manny has done very well in Victoria in 2018 with 14 registered dogs .

Australia Wide he has also done a good job considering the obstacle he faced early in his stud career in Victoria .

In a time where conditions of sale and prices for straws have completely gone against the trend of an industry in the grips of survival mode, I have to say that this post is one of the most refreshing I've read in a long time.

Where the mainstream of participants are looking for signs of hope and help, there has been bugger all coming forward from any side of the industry. (Andrew Varasdi about the only exception I can think of)

Good onya, Kevvy.
Good to see someone stepping up to the plate.

Although I haven't really considered using KMM, after this, I just bloody well might.

Tally ho.

Ted,
Sadly that's about the most common remark I hear these days.
Closely followed by..."All too hard" "Not worth it anymore" "Too expensive compared to returns" "We're treated like shite" 'No-one is fighting for us" etc etc.

If you take your bat and ball then the game is finished.
Don't let the bastards win.
Soldier on Brother...breed that champ!

That and my old trainer insisting it should be Barcia even though he costs an arm and a leg ...his motto breed speed to speed and use a proven sire

Hi Kevin,

You didnt answer my question.
When were these drawn & shipped to Australia?

Specifically, are these straws from your first shipment?

Why? As you have told me your self, your first batch was off poorer quality, so Im trying to work which batch your selling here.

Or do you believe you should not have to disclose this?

All of the Vials i own the the best DRAWS with upto 19 pellets in the best vials .

Some have had big litters from the small Vials but on average he had early misses ..

The dog was pulled out of retirement to draw semen just for Australia so all of it is taken as i said from a 11 to 12 year old sire at the time

Semen was taken from Kiowa Mon Manny up until he died age 12and half

There was only vials drawn for Aust when Manny was 11 years old Rob ...nothing earlier

All the early vials were packed well below the norm of 100 Mill post thaw some worked some did not..

I begged the Owner and Stud Master to please ensure they were all well over 100 Mill post thaw every shipment they assured me that they were all packaged correctly

Basically the Owner of Kiowa Mon Manny ..

Dean Miner and his Stud master and there VET in the USA were GREEDY PRICKS and they thought they could get away with packaging it this way ..

All of the smaller vials were owned by Andy Lord and Adam Baker and i know exactly what Vials they received because i signed each vial over to them .

I got the semen tested by the only testing Lab in Australia but before i got those results i rang up as many people as i could who purchased semen from me and i gave them a second Vial to use .

Rob
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do you believe you should not have to disclose this?

I have disclosed everything about the dog and if i keeped my mouth shut i possibly would've sold all of his Vials ..for big Money

I hope i have answered your Questions now .

It is so tough to breed when you have no idea how many places GAP have for our dogs after racing ..

Cheers Mate and i hope your last litter brings you success.

Was every straw that your now selling Lab tested?

P.s. I hope the Lords got a bargain for taking all of that crappy seamen off you.

The Lords were partners in the dog but decided to pull out when the going got tuff ...They were paid with the first shipments of semen .

The Crappy semen you talk about was sold into NSW heaverly but i did not see them giving buyers a SECOND VIAL to use as one breeding unit ..I DID ...lol

I had to clean up the mess it's as simple as that Rob but please feel free to keep hammering away ...

You cannot test every vial because once the semen has been thawed u cannot refreeze it again ..

The Vial tested was from his early Vials batch and once we sorted out the semen QUANTITY then things were corrected ..

KIOWA MON MANNY'S semen is excellent mobility once Thawed in EVERY VIAL ...
The problem was they were spreading it out way too much and basically they followed they own rules not the rules that Australia freeze by at 100 mill post thaw ..

I tried to rectify the problem costing me 10's of thousands..Its that simple
I hope that satisfies your curiosity Rob..

But as you know its a case of "buyer beware" - & its hard to "beware" if I (or others) don't fully appreciate the quality concerns (either current or previous) of KMM's straws in AU.

So I thank you for clarifying - & from what you have said, we have learnt:

The US stud master/owner & US vet of KMM were "greedy pricks" as they spread the seamen to thin & did not pack the seamen (to AU standards), this resulted in a poor quality seamen which was sold heavily in NSW. The free offers of another viral (for those who purchased) were provided by you (in VIC) & then subsequently by your former NSW business partners (but only after you decided to do so in Vic).

With the above being said, can you confirm:

IF:

Subsequently, after you separated from your former NSW business partners, you purchased more KMM seamen (from those "greedy pricks" - who didn't pack the ordinal stuff according to Australian standards), and it's this new batch that you've had test and are now selling?

OR

From that original batch, you have a had a sample (not all) of your remaining straws tested, and you believe the results of such indicates that the remaining straws are per AU standard (once thawed), & therefore you are now selling the remainder of the batch you & your former partners brought into AUS?

My goal has always been about getting pups on the ground ....

If you breed to Manny Rob you can pay me when your Bitch is confirmed in Pup ...Cheers

PS

Anyone who wants to breed to Manny can pay me once your Bitch is confirmed in Pup ......Vials Located NSW AND VIC ...

I want to see pups on the ground so we can work out a deal to suit us both .