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Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 02 Feb 2018 03:18
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Group 1 Rookie Rebel (600m) invitee Dyna Dean Smashed the clock Last night at Sandown running a sizzling 33.97 over the 595 Metres ...
40 Starts. 15-7-5 Prizemoney $56,935
Best Times The Meadows 29.87 and 34.23
Sandown 34.20 . 33.97
Warrnambool 22.03
Not to be out done by her brother Litter Sister Dyna Chill also saluted running a very smart 34.14 ....
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Feb 2018 19:55
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What great start to 2018 for the Kiowa Mon Manny in 2018 the year he has his greatest number of pups hitting the track ..
Dyna Dean 25/06/2015 Whelp looks like he could be anything and continues to impress ..
Jalapeno
Josie Rumble
Bolt Keeping
Dyna Orenthal
Headline News
Sublime News
Yuko
are just some to watch
Kiowa Mon Manny had a slow start with numbers and if you compare apples for apples he is going well compared to other Sire's
Presently sits .
9th Aust wide ..
3rd on the Victorian Sire list .
GD presently 13th
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Kiowa Mon Manny.... Son's and Daughter's all continue to throw on to a huge amount of bloodlines from around the WORLD ..
Kiowa Mon Manny Daughters are now throwing on in Australia just like in the USA he is one of a very few SIRE'S who has that ability to throw on such powerful genes into his Son's and Daughters ...
Damlines that Suit . Kiowa Mon Manny
Barcia Bale
Fernando Bale
Magic Sprite
Fabregas
Spring Gun
COSMIC RUMBLE ...His Little Sister has produced... Josie Rumble
Stagger
Banjo Boy
Kinloch Brae
What makes Kiowa Mon Manny special is the fact his inbreeding back to Penske it suits many lines when looking for that special out cross ...
Manny Sons and Daughters will set their own Path here in Australia just like he is doing in the USA today ...
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Feb 2018 20:08
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Dennis McKeon Wrote CLICK HERE If the US sire standings were structured to include earnings per start, I think Manny would be far ahead of all of them. He has nowhere near the breedings of sires who are heavily promoted and standing with the major stud operations, yet he has produced quality time and again, and arguably, the 2 best greyhounds to come along in a while, and who have each completely dominated the competition at two of the most upper echelon venues.
I really haven't heard too many knocks on Manny as a sire here in the US. It's hard to argue with his record of top quality production versus his opportunities. Interesting to you folks might be the presence of Minaki Zeke as his damsire. Zeke was an absolutely tenacious chaser, and tended to throw that characteristic, as well as brilliance and pace. He is one of the more overlooked and undervalued contributors to some high quality American pedigrees, imo.
Manny was a pure sprinter---by our standards (550-583 yards)---who raced with distinction at 5 different tracks, 4 of them top tier venues. He was all about pace and breakaway speed. He tends to throw quite an array of types, however, from blazing speedballs, to leather-lunged marathoners. His pedigree is a bit unusual for an American dog, however, despite the inbreeding to She's A Natural, it seems that in some instances, adding even more of that works well enough. The female family just keeps throwing higher and higher class, and sire on top of sire. It's remarkable.
His damsire, Minaki Zeke, was another pacey sprinter, who would have run through a titanium wall, and who tended to throw that trait pretty reliably. It's a good balance to the Unruly influence, which tends to provide some staying capacity.
Of course I haven't handled any of Mannys pups, but I haven't heard too much negativity at all about them. A look at his top offspring is pretty impressive and revealing.
Manny has thrown an array of aptitudes, from speedballs to marathoners.
Taken from the NGA in Dec 2012 .... SH Avatar, Venus Espinosa,Oshkosh Grace,Boundfortheshore The Flying Penske line is alive and well. Better yet, its thriving. Same can be said of the Kiowa Sweet Trey family. Thing is, more often than not, both are doing extremely well when working in harmony, in the same pedigree. The last two months underscored all these truths. In three of the four pedigrees highlighted, it happened to be with Penske on top, two of those in tandem with Sweet Trey bitches. Two of those three Penske appearances were through his hot son, Kiowa Mon Manny. Moreover, in three of the four examples here, the dams dam line goes back to Molotov. SH Avatar, owned by Tom Sugihara, Jr. and Bob Hardison, is the first of the Kiowa Mon Manny offspring highlighted herefrom Mannys mating with Tom S Caterwaul. The brindle male, whelped May 2010, captured the rich ($500,000) Bluffs Run Iowa Bred Classic in November. Its been quite an 18 months for Mon Manny, rocketing up the sire standings thanks in part to the efforts of such big-name sons as 2011 All- America AMF Ex President and 2012 Southland phenom Bella Infrared. The Penske sons linebreeding (bordering on inbreeding when you consider the dam Shes A Natural is the anchor close up in both Mon Mannys parents2x3) has been well documented here beforenot forgetting the three Ks Flaks in his background (two behind the two BJs Justin appearances, and one behind Trouper Zeke) plus two Unrulys (remembering that both Unruly and Flak go back to the same Jones stock on top). This is intense, solid linebreeding at its very best. Tom S Caterwaul is by Jawa Leonas Best (Gable Dodge line), out of the Molotov bitch Tom S Calypso. She gives Avatar his second entry of Trouper Zeke, while also doubling up Hall Of Famer dam Buzz Off (behind Bara Buzz and Mystic Rose). The heavy dosage of Ks Flak behind Mon Manny is further intensified, with two more Flaks behind Caterwaul (behind Zeke and ML Gator). The other Kiowa Mon Manny hitting the paysheet in a big way the last two months has been Patriot Kennels Venus Espinosa, Derby Lanes current win leader and conqueror of the Fall Sprint Classic in late September. Venus is a dark fawn October 2009 son of Mon Manny and Sol Venus, bred by Jack Sherck and owned by Smith Greyhounds & Vincent Savill. Heres where we get into that increasingly popular marriage of Penske-Sweet Trey blood, Sol Venus being by the Hall Of Famer Kiowa Sweet Trey and My Vienna (a Molotov dam). The Sweet Trey/ Molotov mix makes Sol Venus linebred to another Hall Of Fame, HBs Commander in the third generation (on top in both occasions) through sons Oswald Cobblepot and Molotov. Keep in mind that, by adding Cobblepot, youre getting another entry of Rooster Cogburn, who is already richly abundant behind Mon Manny, through the two appearances by Shes A Naturals dam, Fast N Loose. The tail dam line behind Venus Espinosa goes back to Tammys Mine, a daughter of Whizzer Ben and the Irish import Kyltammy*. Our third spotlighted star is an actual daughter of Flying Penske Oshkosh Grace, whos been a tough one all season at Southland (runnerup in the Million), often running in Infrareds shadows, but now the winner of the Festival of Stakes Sprint Championship on Nov. 2 for the Thorne Kennel. Oshkosh Grace is a March 2010 black female, owned and bred by Larry Pollard of Oshkosh, Ne. Once again, heres the Penske blood mixing with Kiowa Sweet Trey in exactly the same way we saw via Venus (Penske on top, through a Sweet Trey daughter). That daughter in this case is Oshkosh Hera, who is out of the Molotov dam Oshkosh Morsel. (Are we seeing a pattern yet with this Penske/Sweet Trey/ Molotov triangleand, oddly enough, very similarly bracketed?) That makes Hera (just as it made Sol Venus) linebred in the third via direct-male lines to HBs Commander. Oshkosh Norma (Morsels dam) is pure Pollard-bred (Oshkosh Tease- Oshkosh Lovable) with both going back to the late Bill Pollards dam lines. Meanwhile, the sire lines are both Jones stock (Unruly and Kelly Jones on top), BJs Justin on the maternal side (thus doubling up Justin again, since hes also behind Penske). The PKs Jet/Unruly/Kelly Jones line behind Tease intensifies the Kelly already apparent behind Sweet Trey (via Sunburn and Dark Rumor). Oshkosh Norma also happens to be tightly linebred to the great Pollard female Oshkosh Buffy (Teases damand also the dam of Oshkosh Leoti, who produce Oshkosh Jive, who was Oshkosh Lovables dam). Thus in the second and fourth generation, and both times in the very bottom line (a lot like Shes A Naturals role behind Kiowa Mon Manny). Oshkosh Jive, incidentally, was a sister to the great Pollard stake racer Oshkosh Juliet (Oshkosh Keeper-Oshkosh Leoti).
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Feb 2018 20:17
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What great start to 2018 for the Kiowa Mon Manny in 2018 the year he has his greatest number of pups hitting the track ..
Dyna Dean 25/06/2015 Whelp looks like he could be anything and continues to impress ..
Jalapeno
Josie Rumble
Bolt Keeping
Dyna Orenthal
Headline News
Sublime News
Yuko
are just some to watch
Kiowa Mon Manny had a slow start with numbers and if you compare apples for apples he is going well compared to other Sire's
Presently sits .
9th Aust wide ..
3rd on the Victorian Sire list .
GD presently 13th
........
Kiowa Mon Manny.... Son's and Daughter's all continue to throw on to a huge amount of bloodlines from around the WORLD ..
Kiowa Mon Manny Daughters are now throwing on in Australia just like in the USA he is one of a very few SIRE'S who has that ability to throw on such powerful genes into his Son's and Daughters ...
Damlines that Suit . Kiowa Mon Manny
Barcia Bale
Fernando Bale
Magic Sprite
Fabregas
Spring Gun
Owners of KIOWA SWEET TREY Broods must look at Manny
Owners of COSMIC RUMBLE Broods ...His Little Sister has produced... Josie Rumble
Stagger
Banjo Boy
Kinloch Brae
What makes Kiowa Mon Manny special is the fact his inbreeding back to Shes A Natural it suits many lines when looking for that special out cross ...
Manny Sons and Daughters will set their own Path here in Australia just like he is doing in the USA today ...
Owners of Fernando Bale Bitches must also now look at Manny ... With his Daughter OSHKOSH FAYOLA litter running around at the moment and i hear of some very quick pups also from another Kiowa Mon Manny brood about to hit the track shortly in Australia also ..
The smart breeder understands one basic principle of all breeding
Outcrossing ..... Using a INBRED Sire to achieve out cross vigor..
Maybe you wont get a a champion but you will get a Foundation Damline that can be used back to our Inbred speed sire's with huge success and generations that continues on throwing ...
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Feb 2018 20:37
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What great start to 2018 for the Kiowa Mon Manny in 2018 the year he has his greatest number of pups hitting the track ..
Dyna Dean 25/06/2015 Whelp looks like he could be anything and continues to impress ..
Jalapeno
Josie Rumble
Bolt Keeping
Dyna Orenthal
Headline News
Sublime News
Yuko
are just some to watch
Kiowa Mon Manny had a slow start with numbers and if you compare apples for apples he is going well compared to other Sire's
Presently sits .
9th Aust wide ..
3rd on the Victorian Sire list .
GD presently 13th
........
Kiowa Mon Manny.... Son's and Daughter's all continue to throw on to a huge amount of bloodlines from around the WORLD ..
Kiowa Mon Manny Daughters are now throwing on in Australia just like in the USA he is one of a very few SIRE'S who has that ability to throw on such powerful genes into his Son's and Daughters ...
Damlines that Suit . Kiowa Mon Manny
Barcia Bale
Fernando Bale
Magic Sprite
Fabregas
Spring Gun
Owners of KIOWA SWEET TREY Broods must look at Manny
Owners of COSMIC RUMBLE Broods ...His Little Sister has produced... Josie Rumble
Stagger
Banjo Boy
Kinloch Brae
What makes Kiowa Mon Manny special is the fact his inbreeding back to Shes A Natural it suits many lines when looking for that special out cross ...
Manny Sons and Daughters will set their own Path here in Australia just like he is doing in the USA today ...
Owners of Fernando Bale Bitches must also now look at Manny ... With his Daughter OSHKOSH FAYOLA litter running around at the moment and i hear of some very quick pups also from another Kiowa Mon Manny brood about to hit the track shortly in Australia also ..
Ashley Paul Craven Australia (Verified User) Posts 236 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 21:42
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I will be doing this when our girl comes on season hopefully in the coming weeks
FABREGAS x OYA NINE WONWON
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 16 Feb 2018 21:40
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Latest Kiowa Mon Manny News
ZOOM TOP 725 Metres 8:37PM S/E Group 1
ROOKIE REBEL 600 Metres 8:58PM S/E Group 1
JALAPENO (QLD)[5]
Has Been smashing the clock at Albion Park, Owner(s): A Team (SYN), T Apap, J Apap BK D KIOWA MON MANNY BROOK LEE Trainer: Tony Apap (Gatton) 2nd (8) 32.1 600 BGC R4 30-Nov-17 35.26 1st (5) 31.8 600 BGC R6 11-Jan-18 34.80 34.77 5.00L 1st (8) 32.0 600 BGC R8 18-Jan-18 35.08 34.93 1st (6) 32.0 600 BGC R8 25-Jan-18 34.73
4 DYNA DEAN (NSW)[3] BK D KIOWA MON MANNY PRUE BALE $6.00 Trainer: Mark Delbridge (Balliang) 1st (4) 33.5 600 MEA R3 20-Jan-18 34.49 3rd (7) 33.2 595 SAN R6 25-Jan-18 34.24 1st (8) 33.2 595 SAN R6 01-Feb-18 33.98 1st (1) 33.1 595 SAN R9 08-Feb-18 34.32
Jason Lymbery Australia (Verified User) Posts 429 Dogs 12 / Races 0 17 Feb 2018 04:57
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2 dogs pups from double twist broke in very fast Kev , one dog second fastest ever at this breaking track. Very fast my friend
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Feb 2018 06:09
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Bitches like Double Twist don't come along to often!
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 17 Feb 2018 06:25
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Mark Staines wrote:
Bitches like Double Twist don't come along to often!
If all sires were judged off the bitchs they had or are having then they wouldnt look so good. Endless amounts of good sires have faded because they havent had the top bitches. Good bitches make good sire statistics and good sires upgrade there bitches.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Feb 2018 06:33
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I just obtained 2 KMM Straws, the offer was to good to refuse.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 17 Feb 2018 07:06
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jason lymbery wrote:
2 dogs pups from double twist broke in very fast Kev , one dog second fastest ever at this breaking track. Very fast my friend
Good stuff mate ...thanks for the heads up ..
Manny throws a mix bag of race dogs but there is no denying his ability to throw on that special genes can throw on to his sons and daughters ..
The semen that is sold by myself has a two vial free return ...
Mark Staines I had a good laugh at your comments and i guess you just could not help yourself hey Bud
You must be the biggest hypocrite on this site and you along with your bunch of merry men always bagged the American dog and not one of you supported them a few years ago and even the breeding Gurus were confused ....lol
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 17 Feb 2018 07:20
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Mark Staines wrote:
I just obtained 2 KMM Straws, the offer was to good to refuse.
Good boy you buy up those cheap vials ..... Some say they have used one vial some have and some have said they used over two vials but there is no record in Greyhound Australasia of this mating and i expect he was talking out of his A$$ like always ...
Mark i would check with GA to make sure those vials have not been used ... Just giving you the heads up Mate
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Feb 2018 07:34
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Kevin Wright wrote:
jason lymbery wrote:
2 dogs pups from double twist broke in very fast Kev , one dog second fastest ever at this breaking track. Very fast my friend
Good stuff mate ...thanks for the heads up ..
Manny throws a mix bag of race dogs but there is no denying his ability to throw on that special genes can throw on to his sons and daughters ..
The semen that is sold by myself has a two vial free return ...
Mark Staines I had a good laugh at your comments and i guess you just could not help yourself hey Bud
You must be the biggest hypocrite on this site and you along with your bunch of merry men always bagged the American dog and not one of you supported them a few years ago and even the breeding Gurus were confused ....lol
ROFLMAO
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Feb 2018 07:35
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Kevin Wright wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
I just obtained 2 KMM Straws, the offer was to good to refuse.
Good boy you buy up those cheap vials ..... Some say they have used one vial some have and some have said they used over two vials but there is no record in Greyhound Australasia of this mating and i expect he was talking out of his A$$ like always ...
Mark i would check with GA to make sure those vials have not been used ... Just giving you the heads up Mate
Lol
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 17 Feb 2018 09:19
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Mark Staines wrote:
Kevin Wright wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
I just obtained 2 KMM Straws, the offer was to good to refuse.
Good boy you buy up those cheap vials ..... Some say they have used one vial some have and some have said they used over two vials but there is no record in Greyhound Australasia of this mating and i expect he was talking out of his A$$ like always ...
Mark i would check with GA to make sure those vials have not been used ... Just giving you the heads up Mate
Dyna Dean
Salutes in the Group one ROOKIE REBEL .
Congratulations to to all connections .....
Kiowa Mon Manny year so far 2018 Group 1 Group 3
Lol
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Feb 2018 09:22
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"OH WHAT A FEELING"
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 17 Feb 2018 10:21
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i hope you got some Fernando bale straws befor they go up.
Jason Lymbery Australia (Verified User) Posts 429 Dogs 12 / Races 0 17 Feb 2018 21:04
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Correct mark , we have to give double twist some credit hear also ,after all she has thrown a group 1 dog and many other top chasers leading up to this.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 17 Feb 2018 22:53
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jason lymbery wrote:
Correct mark , we have to give double twist some credit hear also ,after all she has thrown a group 1 dog and many other top chasers leading up to this.
The problem Jason is the bitch needs to get credit but sometimes all the credit I see that because this is a KMM thread people WANT to point out the bitch. On the Fernando Bale thread someone just pointed out Fernando just through another group winner but did not point out it was from Double Twist?
Good luck to all sires but people pick and choose what they want to see or have a reason why they would like to point out its the bitch this time and not the sire?