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Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 29 Jan 2016 22:11
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Ryan you and I agree on two things. We need new participants and there are ways to improve the auction. Just adopt the same model as horses and trotters and done. That is simple. Nominate reserve. The auctioneer obviously knows it, he says nope not enough. This is when the reserve price is listed publicly as per their live sales website and on the board and then people can approach owner if they want to make an offer. I have bought many lots after the sale.
But it won't stop those who live to whinge from whinging about something else. My guess is that they will then start on the reserve prices and whinge about too high this that whatever. There is a chronic lot of whingers who won't stop looking for issues and will never be pleased.
That aside there are far bigger issues with attracting new participants than them seeing a lot was retained by the vendor because it did not get to a price that was deemed acceptable by the vendor. This happens all the time and many auction race series have been won by horses retained by the vendor cause it didn't hit an acceptable sale price and I have never heard one whinge or complaint. They pay their entry fees and so on.
All a new participant sees is lots of lots to choose from, additional series prize money and lots of activity. Bid to buy and if are too low you miss. End of story.
Out of the top 20 issues in attracting new participants to the industry so called but backs would be number 40 in making the industry unattractive to potential new owners.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 29 Jan 2016 22:34
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Agree with almost all of what you said in the above post.
I dont agree with the numbering of issues in that if the ptb paid attention to detail with everything they did, there wld be fewer and fewer issues. Who knows the sport may actually run smoothly.
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 29 Jan 2016 22:40
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That is a nice thought.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 01 Feb 2016 10:01
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I agree with the comments above regarding the auction process. Pretty simple to publicise a nominated reserve price, or at least have the auctioneer state that this dog has not yet met the reserve, thus NO buy backs. Under the current system, buybacks will be inevitable. Having said that, I must agree with Mick that the dog in question (and it is a good dog) should probably not be advertised as a "purchase" from the R2R sales.
Rich
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 01 Feb 2016 10:06
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Having said the above, and getting back onto "Girl Aloud". It's nice to see some dogs named from daughters from her first "Mogambo" Litter: Also nice to see "Gambo Girl" go to "Bekim Bale" recently.
"Scooters Girl" has, "Just Jorji" and "Pyramid Flyer" from "Oaks Road".
"Zoenah's Entity" has "Kiewa Drive" and "Lonnie's Banjo" from "Banjo Boy".
Pretty Impressive figures and confidence in "Girl Aloud" currently shows 30 Dogs and 32 Bitches whelped from daughters from her first litter to "Mogambo" alone. (no doubt with more to come)
Keeping in mind "Girl Aloud" has thrown 22 bitches across her litters she just may be up there as one of the top foundation Dams of the future. Time will tell....
Rich.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 04 Feb 2016 04:58
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Mick what inspired you to use El Galo at a time others were shying away from useing him?
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 04 Feb 2016 22:32
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Mick what inspired you to use El Galo at a time others were shying away from useing him?
Johnathon, i watched a lot of el galo's races and i liked his box speed , its lacking a little in some of our race dogs/bitches so thought he may instill some early pace ,,
in saying that they need to be broken to the boxes correctly at the start of their education ,
i think the mating was reasonably successful , and we have a nice bitch in lola's entity to breed on , she broke 30 at the meadows winning her maiden,, she then broke her leg at wenty , and cut loose max has won over 80 gran
we had been trying to get her back on track then she came in season,
either way she will be bred for one litter see how it goes, i really like this sire , CLICK HERE
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 06 Feb 2016 04:02
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michael barry wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Mick what inspired you to use El Galo at a time others were shying away from useing him?
Johnathon, i watched a lot of el galo's races and i liked his box speed , its lacking a little in some of our race dogs/bitches so thought he may instill some early pace ,,
in saying that they need to be broken to the boxes correctly at the start of their education ,
i think the mating was reasonably successful , and we have a nice bitch in lola's entity to breed on , she broke 30 at the meadows winning her maiden,, she then broke her leg at wenty , and cut loose max has won over 80 gran
we had been trying to get her back on track then she came in season,
either way she will be bred for one litter see how it goes, i really like this sire , CLICK HERE
Give credit were credits due I say and a master stroke it was.
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 06 Feb 2016 10:58
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michael barry wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Mick what inspired you to use El Galo at a time others were shying away from useing him?
Johnathon, i watched a lot of el galo's races and i liked his box speed , its lacking a little in some of our race dogs/bitches so thought he may instill some early pace ,,
in saying that they need to be broken to the boxes correctly at the start of their education ,
i think the mating was reasonably successful , and we have a nice bitch in lola's entity to breed on , she broke 30 at the meadows winning her maiden,, she then broke her leg at wenty , and cut loose max has won over 80 gran
we had been trying to get her back on track then she came in season,
either way she will be bred for one litter see how it goes, i really like this sire , CLICK HERE
Nice mating mick very fast dog go for it.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 06 Feb 2016 21:14
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paul matthews wrote:
michael barry wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Mick what inspired you to use El Galo at a time others were shying away from useing him?
Johnathon, i watched a lot of el galo's races and i liked his box speed , its lacking a little in some of our race dogs/bitches so thought he may instill some early pace ,,
in saying that they need to be broken to the boxes correctly at the start of their education ,
i think the mating was reasonably successful , and we have a nice bitch in lola's entity to breed on , she broke 30 at the meadows winning her maiden,, she then broke her leg at wenty , and cut loose max has won over 80 gran
we had been trying to get her back on track then she came in season,
either way she will be bred for one litter see how it goes, i really like this sire , CLICK HERE
Nice mating mick very fast dog go for it.
hi paul, we let her miss this time , still hopeful she can get back to the track for a few races , before she is due on again ,, its all a work in progress lol
Michael Wesley Preece Australia (Verified User) Posts 568 Dogs 3 / Races 0 06 Feb 2016 21:48
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Lola in the right hands would be a 29.60-70 meadows bitch Michael. Not many but he's run that. She was gonna be great bitch. Please put me down for a pup when she has them. And Johnathon Mick and Maureen do deserve credit. They back there judgement and go with what ever sire they believe they need to. I've watched them closely they don't seem to jump at the next best thing more so go with what they believe and I tell you as a future breeder I admire what they do and there dogs speak for themselves.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 07 Feb 2016 01:10
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wow that is sharp
Justin Jury Australia (Verified User) Posts 52 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Mar 2016 02:34
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Another winner today. Alarm bells wins at Devonport over 600m
John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 22 Mar 2016 09:06
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pyramid flyer unlucky first start going to the lead then fought of the track should have won but that's racing.worse thing was a friends dog,still talking lol.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 22 Mar 2016 09:22
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Best of luck with her on Thursday John, I will be there and will make an effort to catch up. Cheers. Rich.
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 22 Mar 2016 10:22
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Michael I like this dog with your bitch sulzanti looks very good in my opinion.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 26 Mar 2016 04:19
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john charles caulfield wrote:
pyramid flyer unlucky first start going to the lead then fought of the track should have won but that's racing.worse thing was a friends dog,still talking lol.
a little stiff again john at bendigo,, a win is not far away ,,
nice win by alarm bells in tassie , well done guys
Michael Wesley Preece Australia (Verified User) Posts 568 Dogs 3 / Races 0 31 Mar 2016 11:37
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I see girl aloud had a pup from her Fabregas litter make debut tonight and after early trouble blew them away by 5. Looks like another smart racer. Also same meeting one of girl aloud pups scooters girl threw her first winner aswell. I did hear Michael Barry was down at track to see and enjoy the wind. When I heard he was there I put my house on Mary ;) well done Micky and Maureen well deserved.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 01 Apr 2016 00:53
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it was good to be on track to see scooter's girl produce her first winner, and to be the first, of girl aloud's daughters to produce a winner ,
scooter's girl was a very promising racer until a horrific fall at the meadows put an end to that ,
i hope the bitches we have sold go on to do as well at producing as their mum ,
it was also pleasing to see the first of her fabregas litter to race win first up , there was plenty of money put on her but it wasnt mine lol
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
