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Bert Hornery Australia (Verified User) Posts 1115 Dogs 10 / Races 20 02 Jun 2015 21:52
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Just thought this fellow deserved his own thread. Outstanding sprinter who never receives any recognition on an amazing career. Group 1 Australian Cup winner of 27 races and over half a million in prizemoney says it all.He once won 10 straight which is no mean feat anywhere. Hats off to his trainer, Gerald Kleeven, who has kept this dog sound and racing at the top level through out his career. Unfashioable bred...perhaps, and with the glut of stud dogs currently available, may struggle to attract a lot of bitches. On ability alone he deserves his chance at stud on retirement IMO. I would consider giving him a go with the right bitch if he goes to stud. Would be interested in everyones thoughts on Luca Neveelk's potential and what bitches may suit. CLICK HERE
Ron Hunter (Verified User) Posts 4151 Dogs 13 / Races 0 03 Jun 2015 08:05
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And therein lies the problem Bert, no recognition and unfashionly bred. But who is to say he would'nt fire at stud. Many an "expert" have condemmed many sires!
Craig Andrews Australia (Verified User) Posts 2014 Dogs 15 / Races 2 03 Jun 2015 08:48
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Great damlines everywhere in his makeup: Osti Lee and National Lass. It doesn't get any better.
Peter Hooper Australia (Verified User) Posts 270 Dogs 1 / Races 0 03 Jun 2015 08:59
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Not sure why he is considered " unfashionably bred" grand dam was in a very good litter and the sire line speaks for itself. He may not get a heap of bitches but I don't think he lacks a lot in breeding, will just depend on who uses him early on and who sings his praises, it only takes a few of the well known breeders to use him and a lot of breeders will follow...Group 1 winner and a big stakes earner no reason he can't make it... I'd consider using him as he is a bit of an outcross.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 03 Jun 2015 09:40
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great race dog, but life going forward is going to be pretty hard to establish a new stud dog , just too many uncertainties for most breeders, at this time ,,
mayb in 18/24 months things will settle down ,
Peter Hooper Australia (Verified User) Posts 270 Dogs 1 / Races 0 03 Jun 2015 10:02
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Think your right Michael would hate to have a great dog going to stud right now with people not sure if they are going to stay in the game or get out, let alone breed a litter, there is a lot of people treading water at the moment.
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 03 Jun 2015 12:34
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He will be lucky to get as ingle bitch. Right now must be THE worst time in history to own a champion racer that is going to stud
Bert Hornery Australia (Verified User) Posts 1115 Dogs 10 / Races 20 03 Jun 2015 22:36
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I agree with you guys...Times are tough.But it may well be us..."The Little Guys" that weather the storm and drag this industry back on it"s feet. I don"t breed to make money "cause there isn't any. I breed because I love my greyhounds. I may well use a dog, like Luca Neveelk, because I can, and I think it"s right at the time. Not governed by what is fashionable. Who knows...2 years from now one of those little Luca Neveelks' may be walking out at Wenty as favourite for the Golden Easter Egg...IF there is still an Easter Egg. Can"t imagine not walking down the back of a morning and being greeted by the old broodbitch, wagging her tail, with a couple of pups tagging along. Like I said...I love my greyhounds, as I know you guys do also. Hang in there ....We won"t be beaten.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 04 Jun 2015 06:20
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Bert I agree mate. Breed to what you think is right for your butch and what you want to achieve with her is usually the best way to go
Nothing wrong with Luca's lines at all and he went as hard into a 1st turn as any dog I have seen
He was fearless
Cheers
Sandro
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 04 Jun 2015 06:28
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IF kept at 'home' and advertise 'FREE'... would think he would get pups on the ground...surely that would be a first priority...???
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 04 Jun 2015 09:07
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Haven't seen him in the flesh but in photos he looks almost a choclate blue colour. Is it the photos or is he a really dark blue?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 04 Jun 2015 09:50
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Dark blue, Jack.
Bert Hornery Australia (Verified User) Posts 1115 Dogs 10 / Races 20 06 Jun 2015 00:10
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Has anyone seen him in the flesh? Looks a nice type in photos.
Bert Hornery Australia (Verified User) Posts 1115 Dogs 10 / Races 20 10 Jun 2015 22:31
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Would anyone have a contact number for his trainer, Gerald Kleeven ?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Jun 2015 04:27
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Bert, email me your phone number and I will get hubby to pass it on to Gerry, as they have a dog in with us tonight at Sandown. I'm not sure if their number is a private one or not. My details are on my profile.
Bert Hornery Australia (Verified User) Posts 1115 Dogs 10 / Races 20 14 Jun 2015 03:42
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Thank you for your help Carole...most appreciated.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 14 Jun 2015 04:16
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Glad to help, Bert. Good luck.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 29 Oct 2015 22:31
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is he at stud yet?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 29 Oct 2015 22:43
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Matt, he has had two matings so far, according to fast track.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 30 Oct 2015 06:57
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
