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Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 15 Nov 2015 22:46
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I was just reading back over the so called 'strictly confidential' document produced by GA and 'some how' leaked to the public and it states the objectives of GA as aiming to reduce breeding by 40% by 2018.They aim to achieve this by making it financially restrictive and making the red tape and requirements that hard that it's not worth the drama. In the same paper they state as an outcome that they want to have 'fewer participants' in the sport. How bloody outrageous, what industry strives go backwards? The idea of any successful business is to grow and encourage more participants. They also states that 'We should be accountable to a target whelped that AA likes'. THEY WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO AA'. If Scott Parker wants all the above - what the hell is he doing in a job that wage is paid by greyhound industry participants. Let AA pay his wage as its them he's working for. This is beyond a joke.
Robert Morris Australia (Verified User) Posts 695 Dogs 0 / Races 0 16 Nov 2015 00:09
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Jack Gatty wrote:
I was just reading back over the so called 'strictly confidential' document produced by GA and 'some how' leaked to the public and it states the objectives of GA as aiming to reduce breeding by 40% by 2018.They aim to achieve this by making it financially restrictive and making the red tape and requirements that hard that it's not worth the drama. In the same paper they state as an outcome that they want to have 'fewer participants' in the sport. How bloody outrageous, what industry strives go backwards? The idea of any successful business is to grow and encourage more participants. They also states that 'We should be accountable to a target whelped that AA likes'. THEY WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO AA'. If Scott Parker wants all the above - what the hell is he doing in a job that wage is paid by greyhound industry participants. Let AA pay his wage as its them he's working for. This is beyond a joke.
We should be concerned if litters and are not dropping. That would result in GA having to think of further restrictions, red tape or charges/fees.
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Nov 2015 00:26
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Only if AA approves Robert - that's apparently who we're 'accountable' to.
Peter Hooper Australia (Verified User) Posts 270 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Nov 2015 02:06
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Jack Gatty wrote:
I was just reading back over the so called 'strictly confidential' document produced by GA and 'some how' leaked to the public and it states the objectives of GA as aiming to reduce breeding by 40% by 2018.They aim to achieve this by making it financially restrictive and making the red tape and requirements that hard that it's not worth the drama. In the same paper they state as an outcome that they want to have 'fewer participants' in the sport. How bloody outrageous, what industry strives go backwards? The idea of any successful business is to grow and encourage more participants. They also states that 'We should be accountable to a target whelped that AA likes'. THEY WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO AA'. If Scott Parker wants all the above - what the hell is he doing in a job that wage is paid by greyhound industry participants. Let AA pay his wage as its them he's working for. This is beyond a joke.
I think that is the real worry for the industry Jack, let's face it all successful businesses look to grow and increase profit, with greyhound racing we achieve this by increasing our market share and from what I can see we have been doing that by providing more races and filling the gaps the tab ask of us, if we reduce breeding by 40 percent are we capable of still providing the product we do now? If we can't ,that will lead to reduced meetings,reduced turnover, reduction in prize money and I'd say a reduction in interest from new participants, all of which is the opposite of what anyone with the industry at heart would be looking for I would've thought, but maybe I'm just not seeing something??
Jack Gatty Australia (Verified User) Posts 2055 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Nov 2015 02:39
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If you're not seeing it Peter, then I'm definitely not seeing it also. That document from GA is extremely worrying. I just can't believe that they are aiming at Less people involved in the sport. I could understand if they said undesirable people but to aim to reduce participants is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 16 Nov 2015 03:21
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I think Scott Parker mentions in his resume something about an affinity to animal welfare/activists groups. Will have to find it again but I remember it was a very interesting observation.
He is an interesting man, Scott Parker.
Kev Galloway Australia (Verified User) Posts 2447 Dogs 5 / Races 0 16 Nov 2015 03:22
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Jack Gatty wrote:
If you're not seeing it Peter, then I'm definitely not seeing it also. That document from GA is extremely worrying. I just can't believe that they are aiming at Less people involved in the sport. I could understand if they said undesirable people but to aim to reduce participants is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.
Its NOT worrying to the antis,it is coneived and carried out by the antis fellow travelers to please them and stagnate the greyhound breeding industry nationally.
Graham Haswell Australia (Verified User) Posts 50 Dogs 1 / Races 5 01 Dec 2015 19:30
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kev galloway wrote:
Jack Gatty wrote:
If you're not seeing it Peter, then I'm definitely not seeing it also. That document from GA is extremely worrying. I just can't believe that they are aiming at Less people involved in the sport. I could understand if they said undesirable people but to aim to reduce participants is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.
Its NOT worrying to the antis,it is coneived and carried out by the antis fellow travelers to please them and stagnate the greyhound breeding industry nationally.
Hi Kev
"Stagnate" in your previous post just might be a underestimation in my view.
We processed just 23 puppies for Registration in this state for November, that's less than half of October. Yes November is normally a quiet month however for comparison purposes , November 2013 produced 128 puppies, and 2014 111 puppies so it won't take long for the well to run dry if it doesn't rain soon.
Hierarchy at RQ won't return my phone messages so I can shed any light as to what they are thinking or if they are even concerned.
Kev Galloway Australia (Verified User) Posts 2447 Dogs 5 / Races 0 02 Dec 2015 00:30
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graham haswell wrote:
kev galloway wrote:
Jack Gatty wrote:
If you're not seeing it Peter, then I'm definitely not seeing it also. That document from GA is extremely worrying. I just can't believe that they are aiming at Less people involved in the sport. I could understand if they said undesirable people but to aim to reduce participants is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.
Its NOT worrying to the antis,it is coneived and carried out by the antis fellow travelers to please them and stagnate the greyhound breeding industry nationally.
Hi Kev
"Stagnate" in your previous post just might be a underestimation in my view.
We processed just 23 puppies for Registration in this state for November, that's less than half of October. Yes November is normally a quiet month however for comparison purposes , November 2013 produced 128 puppies, and 2014 111 puppies so it won't take long for the well to run dry if it doesn't rain soon.
Hierarchy at RQ won't return my phone messages so I can shed any light as to what they are thinking or if they are even concerned.
Hi Graham,dont expect any answer from Racing Qld while they are backing the antis.maybe when a new board is in place hopefully.this racing minister is completely out of his depth and should be the first gone in the reshuffle.and the board will be useless unless they turf Declan.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 02 Jan 2016 11:09
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I made this statement in my opening comment.
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But for the moment while the industry lies idling, that light will gradually start to dim as 2017 approaches.
Well with SPRING in the air just 3 months ago (the most fertile time of the year for litters to be conceived in this industry) only 63 litters in Australia are now for sale.
That's STILL 1/3 LESS than this time last year.
Looks like tracks will have no choice but to close within the next 18 months due to the shortage of pups being whelped.
The lack of nominations in the country areas will result in 6 to 7 race meetings with 5 dog fields.
The light has not shone bright for a good 6 months. Not good.
Rod Hampton Australia Posts 1628 Dogs 2993 / Races 11820 02 Jan 2016 11:26
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so how many litters were for sale, at this time of year, in 2014 ?2013?
Tony Wonka Australia (Verified User) Posts 63 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Jan 2016 00:41
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Some stats back up the logic of this thread. One vet told me recently that in October 14 he did 19 implants this year same month he did 4, for November last year 17 implants this year just 2. Also heard one owner/trainer just sent two multiple city winning bitches into GAP because of lack of confidence in the industry. Way things are going in SE Queensland there won't be need to reduce prizemoney as with lack of dogs there is highly likely to be one less meeting a week within the next six months.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 03 Jan 2016 01:21
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I'm sure everything is going to be ok.
Everyone can rest knowing we are in good hands and every effort will be made to not only make the industry sustainable but flourish like never before.
I'll even go so far as to say breeding will explode once all the forthcoming positive and proactive steps are put in place.
It's a great feeling to know our future is assured.
Mick Mellington Australia (Verified User) Posts 408 Dogs 7 / Races 0 03 Jan 2016 01:33
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
I'm sure everything is going to be ok.
Everyone can rest knowing we are in good hands and every effort will be made to not only make the industry sustainable but flourish like never before.
I'll even go so far as to say breeding will explode once all the forthcoming positive and proactive steps are put in place.
It's a great feeling to know our future is assured.
MICHAEL - What shop did you get " THAT CRYSTAL BALL " from?? There would have to be a market for them.
Ian Bradshaw Australia (Verified User) Posts 251 Dogs 6 / Races 0 03 Jan 2016 01:56
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Rod, Go to EXTERNAL LINK Then statistics....litter search or stud dog service search.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 03 Jan 2016 02:26
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Well, I'm glad you asked that question, Mick. It just so happens that I have a few spare ones in the garage. 5,000 of them in fact.
Thought there might be a future market for them, so I bought in bulk.
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Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1439 Dogs 24 / Races 126 03 Jan 2016 02:31
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* Obviously some from dec 2015 to be registered but a 42% drop in services = apprx 12000 pups, with misses and natural rearing attrition, this is apprx 10000 pups to produce racing stock
** We currently require 8500 race dogs per week to fill an average racing week for AU and NZ meetings