As usual, one will blame the other

The various Governments want transparency in our industry .

This means they want people with no knowledge of the greyhound industry and there for no friends in this industry making rules and regulation for us to comply with.

There idea is if they have no friends in this industry they will not be able to favour those friends .

The problem that it has in my opinion created is we have people with
no knowledge of how the industry works making rules and regulations which is bringing the greyhound industry to a stand still .

This industry is primarily a hobby based one and once the enjoyment is taken out of it or it is made unviable then participants walk away.

We in our kennel have reduced out production of pups by 50% as all the new rules and regulations make it to hard to comply with.

If there is not a rethink by our PTB of the over regulation of this industry than I think it will continue to decline.

Paw

Every one points out how the litters are dropping and vacant boxes at every meeting.

Question time........

How are we going to fix this??

1. Come on here and tell everyone how hard we have been done by and it's not our fault and sit on our hands.

2. Get out of the industry which every hates and whinges about.

3. Start breeding again and cross your fingers n toes it gets better.

I don't have all the answers but blind man Freddie knows no dogs no races if they start closing tracks GOOD NIGHT.

The definition of HOBBY - An activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation

I most definitely come under this title & currently, this year I've been having the time of my life as an owner/breeder.
Bitches I've sold have gone on to produce two Group 1 winners - Sapphire Crown & NSW National Derby.
I've bred an Oaks & Grand-Prix winner on my home track. As well as City winners, Group performers & winners in 4 states.....all from the one bitch with around half-a-dozen dogs presently racing.

That brood-bitch who last night also produced the Best 8 winner at Albion Pk (29.94), is on season.......& for the first time in 17 years....I'm NOT going to bred a litter.

No it's got nothing to do with "Pink Card" issues.
It's got nothing to do with my health.
It's got nothing to do with my residential position.
It's got nothing to do with my financial position.

My health is fine (touchwood), I own my home & I have Frozen Breeding Units in the bank, ready to go.

But the word ENJOYMENT has disappeared from the definition of HOBBY, when associated with this die-hard greyhound enthusiast.

Until some positive news is introduced within the State I live in, I'm prepared to sit on the fence until some common ground is found between participant & administrator.

I won't walk away from this sport I've lived & breathed for over 40 years, but I do live and hope that the lies & deceit will stop so the industry can move forward.

(Please note that my opinion of the industry as it currently stands may vary from State to State, but in the State I live in Queensland, it's a basket case).

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(50 per cent of the bonus applicable to the winning greyhound will be paid to the breeder, and the other 50 per cent will be paid to the owner. The Trainer does not receive a share of the bonus money)

That's the way it should be. 50% owner 50% breeder.

Congratulation to you Mexicans.

Why would you buy a pup from any other state!

Why would you race in any other state!

They've tried to kill off NSW.

Queensland are waiting on a PROMISE (8 years) & are NOW a basket case.

Canberra is buried.

WA fields are on the slide.

Like I've been saying for 12 months. The bureaucrats are trying to lasso the industry & drag it into an area, where it can be easily monitored.....And in doing so, killing the participants off in those other areas.

Remember...Rome wasn't built over night.

States outside Victoria would only be left with the runoff of non bred Vic.dogs to fill their meetings & they are already scratching to get enough dogs now.

To me this signifies GRV are serious about maintaining & growing the Industry & are not afraid of the minority tax free, cashed up radicals who are really minuscule in numbers in the greater community.

Not so sure Grant - the recently introduced Euthanasia rules that aligns Victoria to the other states, coupled with ineffective lures that lead to a distinctive to chase, will be an ongoing impediment to breed, despite whatever good intending incentives are introduced.Trust me in 6 months Vic owners will be screaming from the roof tops they can't get dogs through and out of the in system - the evidence is anecdotal from the NSW mess that this is what will occur as a result of these two key pieces of policy.

breeding numbers in vic are increasing each month , is confidence in the industry starting to return ? im not sure

Over the past 30 odd years during the Hotter/dryer months of the year (Oct to Mar), 61% of whelpings happen over this 6 month period compared to just 39% of whelpings over the same time frame between Apr & Sep. This equates to 3 out of every 5 litters are whelped between the months of Oct / Mar, the same period you're talking about.

For example & to prove my point from the lowest to the highest producing months over this period (30 odd yrs) -
Jun - 6124.
Jan - 12514.
That's an unbelievable 50% difference thanks to Mother Nature.

I mean, you could make an optimistic argument for there being some green shoots of recovery but I reckon you could make a far stronger argument that we've reached a new equilibrium of around 10 000 pups a year, or a 40-50% reduction over the longer term.

Here are the starting facts which matter.

1. Breeding (litters) have been on a steady but not huge downward trend for the last 15 years.
2. Breeding has fallen dramatically over the last two years. It cannot be coincidental that live baiting and related issues occurred at the same time but that is not a sufficient answer.
3. Not once has there been any obvious attempt by authorities to uncover the reasons for the fall. Why are buyers not buying?
4. Tri-state inquiries have proved unhelpful and misleading as all failed to properly address the underlying reasons for the shortcomings.
5. Actions by racing authorities to supposedly address the fall have been bureaucratic and procedural ie re-examining grading rules and reducing some fees. They will have little or no effect.
6. The massive increase in the amount and complexity of husbandry and other regulations, and their cost, must have scared off some existing players as well as potential newcomers.
7. Governments reacted only by playing musical chairs with board members. They failed to accept that the system is broken and must be replaced by modern, commercially oriented management structures.

As an aside, I have to comment that the longstanding Victorian policy of utilising the Vicbred approach is a dud. It might make a few people feel good but it has produced nothing of value. There is no evidence whatever that it ever improved the quality or quantity of breeding, including during the period when former Premier Napthine handed out large dollops of cash. Indeed, anti-competitive rules like that normally discourage efficiency.

Besides, to term these as bonuses is also misleading. It is just another way of distributing the same cash in different ways. Participants would have got the money anyway.

A prominent education centre in the Hunter has no bookings for April, May, June and July, which has never happened before.