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Sam Watson
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My girl Farce Allen came on season monday.

Looking to breed my 1st litter, so keen to help keep the industry rolling.

Hopefully get her inseminated in 10 days time to Dyna Double One.

Will create extremely similar breeding to upcoming star 'Dyna chancer'

CLICK HERE


Michael Geraghty
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11 Jan 2018 09:34


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Sam Watson wrote:

My girl Farce Allen came on season monday.

Looking to breed my 1st litter, so keen to help keep the industry rolling.

Hopefully get her inseminated in 10 days time to Dyna Double One.

Will create extremely similar breeding to upcoming star 'Dyna chancer'

CLICK HERE

Good on you, Sam.
Great attitude and hope you breed a champ, mate.
This is what the industry needs.


Michael Barry
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19 Jan 2018 23:22


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breeding numbers continue to increase


Mark Staines
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20 Jan 2018 09:54


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Collins Trial Track at Lara now Trialling once a week due to lack of Greyhounds ???


Michael Barry
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Mark Staines wrote:

Collins Trial Track at Lara now Trialling once a week due to lack of Greyhounds ???

mayb force the trial trainers to go racing lol


Mark Donohue
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If someone hasnt put it up on this thread yet, are we able to view the breeding figures State by State over the last five years ?

I was reading previous page, NSW did have breeding bonus which was IMO, biased (another story) but was withdrawn I think during or shortly after the Upper House Enquiry. GRNSW was making significant changes to the industry, albeit adhoc and under duress, yet the Govt made a basket case of its intervention, ultimate BAN n circus backflip !

They are No Good!


Sandro Bechini
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Litters for Sale haven't been at 60 for a good while




Michael Barry
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06 Feb 2018 23:41


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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Litters for Sale haven't been at 60 for a good while


heading towards another breeding glut at present , lots of breeding being done here in vic,

but the introduction of the new code of practice very soon will curtail things big time,i hear enforcement is a very high priority

i think the breed to sell all at 3/4 months is on the rise again

that number for sale has increased nearly three fold in three months,
and will lead to lots of discounts i think


Michael Barry
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Litters for Sale haven't been at 60 for a good while


gone to 68 now in 24 hours lol will be 100 by Easter


Michael Geraghty
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Michael Barry wrote:

Sandro Bechini wrote:

Litters for Sale haven't been at 60 for a good while


gone to 68 now in 24 hours lol will be 100 by Easter

Mick,
I'd suggest there is a simple reason for it...THE SEASON OF LOVE.
The spring time heat season is now bearing fruit for those that decided to breed.
Don't get carried away because there is only a month or two between feast and famine.
June, July onwards will be interesting...


Roger Spry
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the shortage of hounds ready to race now is hitting home hard in WA
friday 9th Feb, 4 races cancelled due to insufficient nom's.,
also a few empty boxes, maybe it will get better.


Michael Barry
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numbers continue to increase nsw/vic

Stud Service figures released by GRNSW, for the
month of November 2017 showed a total of 60
services for the month, from 27 different sires.
This takes the year to date 2017 total to 606
services, compared to 451 for the same period last
year, which represents an increase of 34.4%.
Whilst it can be said that the increase is coming
off a small base last year, the numbers are trending up
with positive signs for the industry, which is
happening in both NSW and Victoria



Steven Martin
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40 months later after my first initial post on this thread, litters of pups for sale on G-Data have dropped from 178 to just 31.

In my opinion, the breeding industry has now been destroyed & those like myself that have a go...& put their hard-earn on the line, the back-bone of the industry that bred 1 litter a year with a dream of breeding that champ, and keep a couple of pups from each litter and sell the rest (because of council restrictions etc)....will now move away from the breeding side of things because it's simply not a viable proposition if buyers have moved on.

In saying this, yes I do have a litter forsale which are all but sold, so this is not an advertisement....It's been a tuff sell compared to years/decades gone by where I'd simply email or phone those of my intentions & most would be sold before whelp. It looks like those days are now gone.

I recently even tried my luck by advertising in the QLD magazine (my home State) "The Chase" which has resulted in ZERO sales so that shows you how the industry in QLD is going. (Up sh1t cr33k) thx to the broken promises.

To sum it up, I have now used up all my Frozen Semen & have no intention of breeding again until 2020 due to the current climate which is a real shame as I've constantly been involved with breeding for the last 20 years PERSONALLY, & 40 years if I include my parent's achievements.

I do hope the industry picks up soon. A sport I have great memories of & have dearly loved since the days of Dynalace, Peter & Glider's Son, Admiral Lynch, Bobby Rich, Winifred & Gwen Bale, November Lily, Waveman, Dynawhiz, Pleasure O'Hope, Legendary Kid, General Jeff..I could go on.

Time to fed the pups.


Sam Watson
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07 Oct 2018 21:11


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@steve

I honestly think the industry is turning around buying wise. There are still plenty of people with money willing to buy pups.

I have bred 2 litters this year, my 1st 2 ever and have sold both litters in under a week.

My 1st litter DDO x Farce Allen sold out in about 5 days, and had another 5 people lined up if they pulled out.

My recent litter MBF x Alice's entity i sold out in 2 days.

Plenty of buyers out there, the people struggling to sell are overpricing their dogs. Buyers need to feel like they are getting a good deal, its the same when selling anything (Cars, clothes etc)

No longer are the days where breeders can set a price they want and have buyers flock, you have to price them reasonable, which 75% on the market aren't and those are the people saying 'I can't sell'.

I made a nice earn on both litters also, and have built myself a bank to increase my breeding into next year where i am aiming for 4-5 litters next year.




Michael Barry
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07 Oct 2018 21:25


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steven martin wrote:

40 months later after my first initial post on this thread, litters of pups for sale on G-Data have dropped from 178 to just 31.

In my opinion, the breeding industry has now been destroyed & those like myself that have a go...& put their hard-earn on the line, the back-bone of the industry that bred 1 litter a year with a dream of breeding that champ, and keep a couple of pups from each litter and sell the rest (because of council restrictions etc)....will now move away from the breeding side of things because it's simply not a viable proposition if buyers have moved on.

In saying this, yes I do have a litter forsale which are all but sold, so this is not an advertisement....It's been a tuff sell compared to years/decades gone by where I'd simply email or phone those of my intentions & most would be sold before whelp. It looks like those days are now gone.

I recently even tried my luck by advertising in the QLD magazine (my home State) "The Chase" which has resulted in ZERO sales so that shows you how the industry in QLD is going. (Up sh1t cr33k) thx to the broken promises.

To sum it up, I have now used up all my Frozen Semen & have no intention of breeding again until 2020 due to the current climate which is a real shame as I've constantly been involved with breeding for the last 20 years PERSONALLY, & 40 years if I include my parent's achievements.

I do hope the industry picks up soon. A sport I have great memories of & have dearly loved since the days of Dynalace, Peter & Glider's Son, Admiral Lynch, Bobby Rich, Winifred & Gwen Bale, November Lily, Waveman, Dynawhiz, Pleasure O'Hope, Legendary Kid, General Jeff..I could go on.

Time to fed the pups.


hi STEVE, im not sure about qld but here in vic breeding numbers are rising rapidly , and GRV are keeping a close eye on it , last thing we need is a glut again ,,,
rehoming is going well at present ,,, what happens when its no longer fashionable to adopt a greyhound , we see it all the time with breeds they go in and out of fashion ,

ray the dog transporter was here the other day , and he told me the amount off frozen semen he is carting around the state and nsw he cant keep up , transporting more frozen semen than he is dogs over most of this year ,(someone is breeding )

im led to believe at GRV head quarters red lights are shining about the number of young unraced pups in the gap system,,

at present we will proceed with caution and breed one litter a year


Hayden Gilders
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07 Oct 2018 22:25


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my understanding of vic breeding reflects what michael barry posted

my thought is perhaps greyhound data "may" be losing its relevance as a marketing tool and may not be an accurate baromoter of what is happening over all.


Bruce Teague
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Since GRV was quick to endorse reviewer Milne's finding about "overbreeding" I suggest they are an unreliable source of information and/or predictions. Ditto GRNSW.

Much more promising is the quote about the movement of frozen semen although that means action is still a couple of years away.

Meantime, we are recovering from a post-live baiting tsunami but that recovery has yet to show itself on the racetrack. Yesterday Sandown SAP had only ten races and five of those were short of a full field. That's a national issue.

GAP promotions have been worthwhile but we need to do the same and more about breeding and racing in general, preferably after first doing some research to learn more about potential buyers.

To do that, don't rely just on preaching to the converted in trade magazines. Try, for example, regional media where you can expect to get editorial mentions to boost what you spend on advertising (which is relatively cheap there anyway). Plus highway billboards, etc etc.


Nathan Absalom
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08 Oct 2018 10:28


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Mark,

"If someone hasnt put it up on this thread yet, are we able to view the breeding figures State by State over the last five years?"

I'll probably put an updated graph up on twitter at some point this week. The NSW figures are well behind on thedogs website, they're only up to April so my figures are not up to date. Does anyone know if they are being posted elsewhere? I don't like it when I can't answer people because I don't have access to the data.

In saying that, when you correct for seasonal trends, Victoria has increased their levels of breeding this year and is running at around 4000 pups/year in 2017/18, about 2/3rds of the amount of pups produced before live baiting. NSW is producing around the same amount, perhaps a few hundred less, at around half of the amount before live baiting.

If there has been any increase in breeding in NSW, it would have been after April if you are going on whelping figures which is where my data ends.


Adam Crouch
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08 Oct 2018 11:03


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steven martin wrote:

40 months later after my first initial post on this thread, litters of pups for sale on G-Data have dropped from 178 to just 31.

Steve, is it a possibility that the number of litters for sale has dropped due to them being sold prior having to advertise? I know of numerous people who have sold their litters with ease recently, all without having to advertise. And speaking from my personal experience, I had one of my bitches inseminated last week, and I already could have sold 10+ pups.


Ross Farmer
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Litters may will be dropping, but the problem is exacerbated by lower percentages of pups bred making the track, and thereafter higher 'failing to chase' rates.

Breeding aside, part of a solution (a large part imo) is to properly manage pups to maximise their chances of racing; with the slower dogs being taken through adoption.

This would require a combination of best practice training techniques, and best practice desensitisation techniques. It should hit the problem at both ends.

Both haven't happened. No best practice training techniques in either area (incomprehensible in the context of the rule for no animal products to be used in training).

The issue is Australia-wide, so funding should have been shared by all States.

And for all practical purposes, desensitisation has effectively been flicked back to trainers.

Tossed up whether a registration charge is appropriate. It should act to ensure only serious owners acquired dogs, and could fund desensitisation at the end of a dog's career of the owner does not take responsibility for the dog - otherwise refundable (plus interest?).

But the effect on breeding would be calamitous.

There's a lot of work to be done.

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