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Grant Dunphy Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 4 / Races 1 01 Jan 2016 21:54
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I think its time we demanded to see the box draws on the computer as happens in Victoria.
My current example Dock Master 25 starts.-Never had the 1 or 8 & they represent 25% of the boxes.
Ray Webster Australia (Verified User) Posts 380 Dogs 72 / Races 27 02 Jan 2016 04:42
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I wonder how hard it would be to live stream the box draws so participants could watch on their computer? I'm not tech savvy so have no idea.
Grant Dunphy Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 4 / Races 1 02 Jan 2016 21:12
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From what has been explained to me I think that is what they do in Victoria Ray. Apparently it is easy & inexpensive to set up. Can any of you mexicans down there enlighten us?
Mrs Marien Joy Sullivan Australia (Verified User) Posts 45 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jan 2016 09:34
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It appears that we all want the same thing. I have a bitch mad railer drawn the one twice in over 50 starts. I have wide runners that draw inside. There needs to be a call for inside and outside runners plus I want to to see box draw too
Calum Andersen Australia (Verified User) Posts 913 Dogs 5 / Races 1 04 Jan 2016 10:53
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My dog you aye had 21 starts in nsw for 11 box 8s and 3 box 7s, lucky he was a wide tracker. Over all had 51 starts for 15 box 8s, 6 box 7s and 9 box 5s but never in 51 starts drew box6 i find that strange. I understand the fact its random but no box 6s in 51 starts is very lucky.
Chris O'Brien Australia (Verified User) Posts 24 Dogs 2 / Races 0 14 Jan 2016 09:08
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Wouldn't be hard Ray and they know it ! being 2016 It's time to stream it live would save a lot of conjecture and keep It open and transparent.
Mark Walden Australia (Verified User) Posts 32 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jan 2016 21:57
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Sorry Chris that's exactly what they don't want open and transparent the hole just keeps getting deeper with the (professionalism)the current administration show just look at the wrong dog that raced a couple of weeks ago I'm not sure if any of the current people running the GRNSW deserve to be kept but I know that owner breeders trainers and spectators should be afforded a more competent bunch of maggots that are currently running this great sport
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Jan 2016 00:57
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In March last yr GRNSW told me an OZ chase box draw audit was in progress. Every time I have inquired since, i get the same "the audit is in progress" reply. I am still awaiting a reply to my last request for an update.
Raymond Lacava Australia (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 03:39
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about 3 weeks ago Newcastle trainer nominated 3 dogs for a Wednesday meeting at Wenty there were 6 5th grade races which his dogs were eligable to be drawn in the 3 dogs drew alongside each other i think from memory 3-4-5 same trainer same dogs nominated for Wenty 16-08-17 5 5th grades dogs eligable for have drawn 1-2-3 in the 1st OZ CHASE BOX DRAW AUDIT Please do not rush obviously from that shamozzle not needed in a hurry NOT
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 03:49
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Ozchase boxdraw audit was done last year. The Mexican one might be live, does not mean its random.
Michael Floyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 803 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 04:12
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 04:56
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Well according to me it does not. Shepparton Cup boxdraw 2016 was done at the track, then it was done 'live' on fasttrack 10 minutes later. Im sure it's an isolated case but that is indisputable proof that the algorithms can be programmed into the system.
Mitchell Tubinas Australia (Verified User) Posts 813 Dogs 11 / Races 1 14 Aug 2017 08:24
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Spot on. It needs to be real live video with a lotto ball system or similar with a live video not moving away from some sort of live sky channel playing in the background to prove they cant redo the first race 10 times till they get there manipulated result. Things like the systems they have in place and refuse to change prove that they have things to hide. Like since ozchase associated people realised i owned an interstate dog that raced in NSW it has drawn 44457668. She wants the rails and also keeps drawing dogs that come out and crash on her ouside and inside. The thing that people dont see is how often do the top rank trainers draw there dogs with slow beginners and dogs to suit there style of running. My dogs would have won double the races without being set up to be wiped out.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 14 Aug 2017 19:49
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RAYMOND LACAVA wrote:
about 3 weeks ago Newcastle trainer nominated 3 dogs for a Wednesday meeting at Wenty there were 6 5th grade races which his dogs were eligable to be drawn in the 3 dogs drew alongside each other i think from memory 3-4-5 same trainer same dogs nominated for Wenty 16-08-17 5 5th grades dogs eligable for have drawn 1-2-3 in the 1st OZ CHASE BOX DRAW AUDIT Please do not rush obviously from that shamozzle not needed in a hurry NOT
You can look at this another way. At least he has 3 chances of winning prizemoney.
Kevin Murnane Australia (Verified User) Posts 120 Dogs 1 / Races 0 15 Aug 2017 09:54
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Hi tom the audit is a load of bullshit maybe icac could get to the bottom of this because participants can't we keep getting fed bullshit I know why this system was introduced what system has a redraw button think about it I wont give my opinion due to frequent enquiries but I will ring the lotteries and ask why they don't have a redraw button because my numbers don't come up iwas told the system was fast but fields still take all day to be released even with one meeting but if there Christmas party is on that evening the field is released by midday cheers
Raymond Lacava Australia (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Aug 2017 19:24
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Tony hi perhaps he should have had 3 cracks at 1st prize money further do we have a mathematical genius out there who could calculate the odds of drawing 3 in a race boxed beside each other at the same track on 2 occassions when there multiple races they could have been drawn in happy daze
Peter Bell Australia (Verified User) Posts 1460 Dogs 3 / Races 0 15 Aug 2017 22:24
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He has 3 chances of winning 1 race not 3 chances of winning 3 races.
Raymond Lacava Australia (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 0 / Races 0 16 Aug 2017 01:22
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Correct Peter though still has a chance to win 3 races with 3 in one race u do not
Kevin Murnane Australia (Verified User) Posts 120 Dogs 1 / Races 0 17 Aug 2017 09:10
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kevin murnane wrote:
Hi tom the audit is a load of bullshit maybe icac could get to the bottom of this because participants can't we keep getting fed bullshit I know why this system was introduced what system has a redraw button think about it I wont give my opinion due to frequent enquiries but I will ring the lotteries and ask why they don't have a redraw button because my numbers don't come up iwas told the system was fast but fields still take all day to be released even with one meeting but if there Christmas party is on that evening the field is released by midday cheers
George Tsohalis Australia (Verified User) Posts 36 Dogs 4 / Races 11 18 Aug 2017 23:42
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The GRANSW computer or it's operators need REBOOTING. The computer is incompetent or corrupt. How does the computer give box 1 to dogs that have had it several times and dogs in the same race that have never had it don't get drawn in it? Why because it is incompetent or corrupt. The industry they want is coming. A handful of breeders and a handful of trainers. Then collusion will be rife.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
