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Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 08 Feb 2017 09:14
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Hi Seamus
I think Kinloch bitches will be very good producers in the future. I have a young stud dog in Australia who has thrown a couple of handy pups in his first few litters.
Three of these pups are out of the only Kinloch Brae bitch he has served early on (not sure if there are any others at this stage).
They have run some very quick times for pups not yet 2, one particularly flying.
CLICK HERE As a result I have gone hunting for Kinloch bitches to put to him myself.
I have two girls of this mating.
CLICK HERE I can't do the future mating thing but if they show above average ability (my criteria for using a brood) then I love the match up and have every confidence in the brood sire.
No problem seamus. Just open up any stud dog and click on top 2nd off spring. Great tool to have because you can see which stud dogs agree with the dam sire!! Dermot
James Schierny Australia (Verified User) Posts 784 Dogs 8 / Races 21 08 Feb 2017 14:43
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Interesting post regarding Kinloch brae, There is a very powerful link between Flying Penske (damsire of Banjo Boy) and Greys Julianna the second dam of Kinloch Brae
Kevin Lindsay United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1420 Dogs 10 / Races 7 08 Feb 2017 15:22
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Just my opinion but does anyone else think his Ire/Aus broods are producing better when mated back into Ire/Aus lines rather than USA lines?
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 08 Feb 2017 19:49
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Andrew,
you are SO RIGHT chasing Kinloch Brae bitches for Banjo Boy. It is the US connection with Flying Penske in your stud dog that could make it a mating to die for.
This is the close, close link between the pedigree of Flying Penske/Kinloch Brae. It comes via BJ's Justin (damsire of Flying Penske) and Greys Julianna (Kinloch's second dam).
Jason Bolwell Australia (Verified User) Posts 130 Dogs 44 / Races 1 08 Feb 2017 20:46
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David Brasch wrote:
Andrew,
you are SO RIGHT chasing Kinloch Brae bitches for Banjo Boy. It is the US connection with Flying Penske in your stud dog that could make it a mating to die for.
This is the close, close link between the pedigree of Flying Penske/Kinloch Brae. It comes via BJ's Justin (damsire of Flying Penske) and Greys Julianna (Kinloch's second dam).
David, i have contacted Andrew in regards to the below mating, just waiting for her to come in season. CLICK HERE Whats your thoughts ????
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 08 Feb 2017 21:15
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Jason
Very interesting in that you balance Flying Penske bring in the proven Mogambo-Off Springer cross but also there is common ground with the direct damline on both sides both running to Sancerie this is the cross found in that Group class bitch and famous producer Leprechaun Yap your bitch's dam Zara Zulu (Aust Cup winner) is already bred on this cross herself via the damline of Ginger in Mogambo's tail female line
DB
Jason Bolwell Australia (Verified User) Posts 130 Dogs 44 / Races 1 08 Feb 2017 21:32
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David Brasch wrote:
Jason
Very interesting in that you balance Flying Penske bring in the proven Mogambo-Off Springer cross but also there is common ground with the direct damline on both sides both running to Sancerie this is the cross found in that Group class bitch and famous producer Leprechaun Yap your bitch's dam Zara Zulu (Aust Cup winner) is already bred on this cross herself via the damline of Ginger in Mogambo's tail female line
DB
do you think flying penske is postioned to have an impact on this mating
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 08 Feb 2017 23:36
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Hi David
Yes it looks a real opportunity especially given the results from the sample of one, BANJO BOY x ZARDEA, who is back for a repeat mating.
I am led to believe that there is a GROUP ONE winning Kinloch Brae bitch waiting to come on season which to me looks sensational.
Sorry Jason - if I have missed a call sorry. give me a buzz if you need anything..0408349578
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 09 Feb 2017 01:54
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One of the greatest crosses in greyhound racing throughout the world has been the "nick" between Flying Penske and Kiowa Sweet Trey Most would believe it is the obvious cross of the littermates Fast N Loose and Roosters Spur that makes this "nick" so special
but you will see Kiowa Sweet Trey also brings in a cross of Share Profit to link with his sister Warned To Win in the damline of Penske. Share Profit and Warned To Win are MUCH better placed to impact with each other than Fast N Loose and Roosters Spur whenever Penske mates a Kiowa bitch, or vice versa
BUT, in the case of a great dog like Djays Octane (a very successful sire in the US), it is the Fast N Loose/Roosters Spur cross that is stronger
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Feb 2017 02:51
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David Brasch wrote:
One of the greatest crosses in greyhound racing throughout the world has been the "nick" between Flying Penske and Kiowa Sweet Trey Most would believe it is the obvious cross of the littermates Fast N Loose and Roosters Spur that makes this "nick" so special
but you will see Kiowa Sweet Trey also brings in a cross of Share Profit to link with his sister Warned To Win in the damline of Penske. Share Profit and Warned To Win are MUCH better placed to impact with each other than Fast N Loose and Roosters Spur whenever Penske mates a Kiowa bitch, or vice versa
BUT, in the case of a great dog like Djays Octane (a very successful sire in the US), it is the Fast N Loose/Roosters Spur cross that is stronger
So if your right David and Sandro and Andrews opinion that Banjo Boy has clicked with Primo uno bitches with Where's Pedro also in the pedigree than that helps me as I've got a Banjo Boy vial but wasn't sure we're to use it But I have a bitch in the wings it seems as I'm about to name her and if she's up to scratch and everyone's theory's combined I've got a super star litter to look forward to lol. CLICK HERE
Wade Gallagher Australia (Verified User) Posts 372 Dogs 117 / Races 0 09 Feb 2017 02:58
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Kinloch Brae has appeared to go very well when Malawi's Prince has been introduced - does any feel there is a reason why?
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 09 Feb 2017 03:03
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Wade Gallagher wrote:
Kinloch Brae has appeared to go very well when Malawi's Prince has been introduced - does any feel there is a reason why?
Malawi Prince was a breed shaper. A proven potent breeder of early speed. Combining outcross & double up of MP enhances chance of highlighting the traits he throws. That's my take on it.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 09 Feb 2017 06:13
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As a sire, amongst his Brett Lee and Malawi's Prince feature quite heavily amongst his superior Australian progeny
Those two lines are carried by many sires in the immediate damlines i.e. Hallucinate/Where's Pedro, Collision, Bomnbastic Shiraz, Token Prince etc
The primary outcross sire so far amongst superior Australian progeny is Spiral Nikita
The figures I have are from his actual litters as a sire, not from KB as a damsire.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 09 Feb 2017 09:12
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
As a sire, amongst his Brett Lee and Malawi's Prince feature quite heavily amongst his superior Australian progeny
Those two lines are carried by many sires in the immediate damlines i.e. Hallucinate/Where's Pedro, Collision, Bomnbastic Shiraz, Token Prince etc
The primary outcross sire so far amongst superior Australian progeny is Spiral Nikita
The figures I have are from his actual litters as a sire, not from KB as a damsire.
sandro , you have pretty well nailed it ,, spiral nakita is the one ,,
but this site now is all about money for comment ,, lollllllllllllllllll
Thomas Light Ireland (Verified User) Posts 181 Dogs 3 / Races 0 09 Feb 2017 18:00
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I have 2 dogs 3 bitches 6 months old drumcrow obama-mysterious lee (kinloch brae-miss lee)fantastic pups great temperament full of running hoping there is early paced superstar amongst them definitely bred for pace roll on Christmas time 2017 to start schooling
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Feb 2017 23:49
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
