The thread was on permits, and my post was just pointing out new rules for these.

So to clarify, the new greyhound property rules apply to new permit applications, and are not retrospectively applied from a compliance perspective by Councils.

This is unlike the GRV approach to property inspections where a newer code was/is applied to existing properties (incorrectly in my opinion).

So are all council's similar with costs Jonathon?
I guess they all baulked when you mentioned the word 'greyhound' :)
I think you're wise to go about it the correct way.......so no drama's down the track.

Which area's did you like best?

Not sure if I mentioned this before John but Lismore has plenty of hills, snakes, Bongo-vans 'n' hippy's...You can even practice your snorkeling as the place never runs outta water, apparently.

Ricky we never talked costs but we spoke with many councils on our way and it was going to be expensive no matter which way we looked at it.
Steve is right we liked the Lismore area particularly Kyogle, and as Steve knows there are hills, hippies. Water a lot of water but the only place we saw Banjos was at Bundaberg.
We dont want to train or rear for people only do our own dogs and the cost of that alone will not be cheap but if its legal we will have more confidence.

SOUTH-EAST Queensland
greyhound trainers have been
left fearful and confused as the
Lockyer Valley Regional Council have
launched a crackdown on the keeping
of unregistered dogs which could force
dozens of trainers out of the industry.
The Council has recently com-
menced an approved selective inspec-
tion program across several areas,
including the industry-dense suburb
of Churchable, to identify properties
where unregistered dogs are being kept.
The problem facing many grey-
hound participants in the area is that
their properties are not registered
with one trainer telling Austral-
ian Racing Greyhound it was his
understanding they did not need a
kennel permit through the council as
Churchable has always been a desig-
nated greyhound area.
Under the Animal Management
(Cats and Dogs) Act 2008 the council
can impose an on the spot infringe-
ment of two penalty units for each
dog which is not registered with the
Local Government in accordance with
the act. The current value of such an
infringement is $252.
For all registered kennel proper-
ties, it will cost $12 to register each
dog, while those without a licence will
be forced to pay a whopping $120 per
dog, each year.
The situation could financially crip
ple some participants whose proper-
ties arent licenced as kennels as they
are now faced with huge registration
costs for their large scale operations.
One Churchable trainer who didnt
wish to be named said he received a vis-
it from a council worker a fortnight ago
who informed him he was only allowed
to keep four dogs on his property.
Because he has more than a dozen
greyhounds he was given three days
notice to comply with the councils
requirements. As he is considered
a hobbyist, he was told to licence
four of his dogs and then apply for
an excess animals permit which is
for people with five dogs up to and
including 25 dogs.
The excess animals permit has a
lodgement fee of $325, on top of the
$120 registration fee per dog. Once
the permit is granted there is an ad-
ditional licence fee of $110, plus $120
for each additional greyhound on top
of the original four.
The participant we spoke to has
13 greyhounds in his care, meaning
he has to come up with $1,990 to reg-
ister his property and dogs up until
the end of the financial year. In four
months time each dog will then have
to have their registrations renewed at
$120 each.
Its a struggle and it will be a
struggle for the majority of people,
the participant said.
I feel absolutely blind-sided by it
all. Its unfortunate its happened just
after the industry was given a glim-
mer of hope when our prize money levels were increased.
For those who are deemed to keep
their dogs on a commercial basis they
need a kennel permit approved for
their property.
The kennel licences are for six dogs
up to and including 100 dogs, with
the application fee alone being $550.
A kennel permit can only be applied
for once a material change of use
application has been applied for and
approved and additional approvals
relating to the infrastructure needed
in order to keep an excessive number
of animals have also been sought.
Prominent trainer Steven Scott
has lived in Churchable just over
six months and is in the process of
obtaining a kennel licence for his
property, but said the new crackdown
could end some of the larger kennels
who do not have a council permit.
We were told it was a dog area
when we moved here so we wouldnt
really need a permit, but the bloke
next to us has a 100 dog licence so
we decided to get one ourselves if
you get a licence you know there is no
dramas, Scott said.
I dont think too many properties
out here have licences though so its
going to be a lot of money for people.
Its a big hit.
Another Churchable trainer, Mi-
chael Geraghty, said the costs will be
too much to bear for a lot of trainers
and he fears it will force even more
people out of the dog game.
This is the last thing this industry
needs there have been more than
200 people who havent renewed their
licences over the past couple of years,
he said.
You can double that with this
alone so something has to be done. To
me this is the straw which will break
many camels backs.
This will financially cripple a lot of
people. There will be an exodus from
the industry.
A statement from the Lockyer Val-
ley Council stressed that it is not just
greyhound trainers which are being
targeted and urged participants to
contact the Council to discuss their
individual situations.
Since 29 January 2018, Council is
conducting its dog registration survey in
the Churchable area and is preparing to
commence in the Spring Creek area.
A number of properties have been
identified as housing un-registered
dogs which also require approvals
from Council for the keeping of more
than the allowable number of dogs.
A number of dog owners/ train-
ers have already been working with
Council to achieve compliance with
the requirements of Council and the
Animal Management (Cats and Dogs)
Act 2008 and Council encourages all
owners/keepers/trainers of dogs to
contact Council and discuss their indi-
vidual concerns as soon as possible.
Australian Racing Greyhound
contacted Racing Queensland for its
comment on whether it planned to
support participants, however they
did not respond to our requests.

(Article courtesy of "Australian Greyhound Racing News' (Kat Ernst)

the same thing will be happening here in vic , once the code of practice is enforced later in the year

If I was to buy (in Qld) a licensed BOARDING KENNEL that was licensed for say up to 40 dogs & cats...& turned it into a GREYHOUNDS set up, why do I have to go through council again to keep that 40 dog license again when it already exist?

The answer is because they are a WORKING DOGS.

Could be a loop-hole Mickey G.

Stevo, as I understand it, no dog license in the Lockyer Valley shire is transferable.
The point I was trying to make in that article is that there are many here in this region who have had enough and some are very big operators.
I know of 3 who have over 50, 80, and 100 and if the costs involved to comply are too much they are out...that's just THREE.
There will be a Tsunami effect and on top of the already 60% reduction in breeding, we are in big trouble.
No-one should underestimate that.
Can't say too much more ATM...more to come.

After all.... you don't register your car with Qld main roads.....then have to pay the council further fee's.

Its double dipping.

Sure we probably need to pay a fee to have a permit for 'x' amount of greyhounds.....but it needs to be fair and reasonable.

One would think that a sensible solution can be reached without causing too much pain.

With a surname like 'Staines'.......I'd be carefull Mark!.....LOL