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Edward (ted) Howard
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Thought of Fernando Bale but litter in Tassie very feisty are there any litters on the mainland like that. Cheers Ted.


Matt James
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15 Mar 2018 07:41


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some Fernando Bales are a bit fiery, but I've also seen fernandos that are spooky, it usually has more to do with the broodies mentality in my opinion.

As a rule if they're feisty they will chase which is what you want out of a sire.



Matt James
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This is the testmating

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if it she was my broodie I would be going somewhere along the brett lee lines

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Colin Bermingham
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Along similar path with double of sobbing Sal to matt,he's unproven but some nice American Aussie bloodlines, might get a nice strong 1 turn dog

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Edward (ted) Howard
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Her mother has pups 1 month old to Magic Sprite Matt but liked that cross with terror as well as the mother threw to Cosmic Rumble with similar bloodlines. Thanks for the input fellas cheers Ted.


Edward (ted) Howard
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My picks so far, Magic Sprite, El Grand Senor or Fernando Bale what do you think. Cheers Ted.


Ronald George Hunter
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Hi Edward
Some nice crosses with Kiowa Producer.


Barrie Backhurst
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Keybow

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Edward (ted) Howard
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Hi Ronald I looked at Kiowa Producer and Barrie Keybow does look good thank you both. Cheers Ted.


Edward (ted) Howard
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Ill put him on the list like the cross only drawback unproven thanks Michaele. Cheers Ted.


John Staines
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hello ted in my opinion there is enough out cross I would come back in to aussie blood line with know out cross that is just my opinion.


Edward (ted) Howard
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Hi John was thinking that myself only trouble was I couldn't get Ryans idea of saturation out of my head and all the sires I looked at didn't seem to show any high percentages but I should have realised this would happen because of the outcross but it has left me a bit confused on where to go from here.Cheers Ted.


Geoff Collins
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Ted … the US has three main sirelines … Penske .. Dodge … and Commander .. with Commander mainly showing up through Sweet Trey and Molotov

Generally speaking US breeders don’t double up Dodge nor Penske … they also don’t often cross Sweet Trey with himself either

They do double up Commander but that’s usually back in the 4th or 5th generation and similar with Molotov

Penske, Dodge and Sweet Trey are younger than Commander so that may be a contributing factor as I think US breeders ‘generally’ don’t inbreed to the same extent we do … and even less likelier to do so close up

If you were breeding in the US, you would most likely take your bitch to dog with a Penske sireline but the proven method here is to take a daughter of an import back to an Aussie sire



Sandro Bechini
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Geoff Collins wrote:

Ted … the US has three main sirelines … Penske .. Dodge … and Commander .. with Commander mainly showing up through Sweet Trey and Molotov

Generally speaking US breeders don’t double up Dodge nor Penske … they also don’t often cross Sweet Trey with himself either

They do double up Commander but that’s usually back in the 4th or 5th generation and similar with Molotov

Penske, Dodge and Sweet Trey are younger than Commander so that may be a contributing factor as I think US breeders ‘generally’ don’t inbreed to the same extent we do … and even less likelier to do so close up

If you were breeding in the US, you would most likely take your bitch to dog with a Penske sireline but the proven method here is to take a daughter of an import back to an Aussie sire

Going to an Irish Sireline i.e. Premier Fantasy sireline or Premier Fantasy himself could be an option as well

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or try the Spiral Nikita sire line

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or this beautifully bred dog who smashed the track record at Nowra before breaking his hock

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and if you wanted to go All Australian this guy has been a decent sire

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or another freshman could work well (but no evidence of the success of linebreeding of BDC)

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Edward (ted) Howard
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08 Apr 2018 03:06


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Geoff the Gable Dodge double has it failed in the US or they have not tried it because of the way they breed. Also would you try it on the right female. Thanks Ted.


Edward (ted) Howard
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Sandro I love Cosmic Rumble and it worked with the mother all his pups we have had were absolute gems in the kennel. I like the cross with Andos Mac but he is unproven as yet. thank you Ted.


Sandro Bechini
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edward (ted) howard wrote:

Sandro I love Cosmic Rumble and it worked with the mother all his pups we have had were absolute gems in the kennel. I like the cross with Andos Mac but he is unproven as yet. thank you Ted.


Then there is your answer I reckon


Mark Staines
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08 Apr 2018 07:21


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edward (ted) howard wrote:

Sandro I love Cosmic Rumble and it worked with the mother all his pups we have had were absolute gems in the kennel. I like the cross with Andos Mac but he is unproven as yet. thank you Ted.

At least with Cosmic Rumble you are getting value for money.



Jim Meletios
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I agree Cosmic Rumble suits well
maybe CLICK HERE
Turanza would have been a shoe in.


Edward (ted) Howard
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09 Apr 2018 02:59


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Thanks Jim not knocking your pick but why those two especially turanza.

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