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John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 11:32
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they keep putting people in charge that haven't got a clue what a wast of our money in my opinion there in bed with the greens and the r.s.p.c.a. they still want to close the industry down and there doing a very good job at it.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6018 Dogs 0 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 20:29
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So after a State wide "Meet Greet, Listen to Participants Concerns" within the Industry. They're come up with a "Puppy Bond"? Probably from that guy living on Mutton Bird Island! I'm staying POSITIVE! but quickly running out of VALIUM.
Dan McDonald Australia (Verified User) Posts 402 Dogs 9 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 21:08
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Not a word about increasing prize money. Hello McFly, it's 2018!
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 16 Mar 2018 21:54
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What upsets me about this whole Puppy Bond is the fact we are assumed to be guilty before the euthanasia policy has been used. I could understand if they had heavy fines and/or long suspensions for participants not adhering to the policy but to assume we won't follow it just shows the distrust management have for us. I believed all the spin at the meet and greet about being in this together but this bond brings in serious doubts and makes me think my broodies would be better off in another state. I doubt the bond will have too much influence on somebody who will do the wrong thing anyway. As breeders in NSW we competing with the other 2 main markets of Victoria and Qld who have put in place breeding incentive programs that will encourage breeders to breed quality pups. Why wouldn't we put in place a incentive scheme of our own if we want to improve the industry. Tony said in his talk at the meet and greet that he wanted to stop the good dogs leaving NSW to Victoria but with this bond the broodies that breed the quality pups in the first place will leave to Victoria and there is no way the pups will come back with the lucrative prizemoney and incentives they can race for down there. I also think some of the pups from these good bitches won't even hit the market for NSW buyers and will further add to the shortage of race dogs in NSW.
Another decision that has given me grief is the idea that the microchipping process doesn't begin till after 12 weeks in NSW, It just had a litter of 10 pups that were not completed till 15 weeks and I am still waiting for the pups papers to send to the buyers. It cost me $500 a week for the litter for the 3 weeks after the 12 week whelping was finished. Is this only in NSW again ? what is the logic behind doing it so late ? You used to be able to pick up your pup at 12 weeks with the papers but now it can up to a extra 4 to 6 weeks.
These taxes will be the end of breeding in Nsw, no one with a decent brood bitch will put up with this rubbish when there is so much better on offer interstate.
How does that low life Scott sleep at night ?
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 22:11
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Dan McDonald wrote:
Not a word about increasing prize money. Hello McFly, it's 2018!
. It was a waste of our time and money. Theyve been on a trip to NZ n heading off to England soon and possibly the US. Come on ....
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 16 Mar 2018 22:42
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well said mick
Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1548 Dogs 40 / Races 3 16 Mar 2018 22:51
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They are to busy Mick doing stupid posts on Facebook and travelling around the country side enjoying there junket as all they say is we cant make a decision till new board takes over well why drive around then stay at motels eat out everywhere thats right these people only want this position till we are finished then they go to the next cream job.
Rob Ingram Australia (Verified User) Posts 287 Dogs 13 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 22:53
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People need to email Miranda Devine. With genuine issues. We need to get it back into the public option stages. Political parties only listen when they are losing public support
Rob Ingram Australia (Verified User) Posts 287 Dogs 13 / Races 0 16 Mar 2018 22:55
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Follow the link below and go to around the 34 minute mark.
Valerie Glover Australia (Verified User) Posts 239 Dogs 2 / Races 0 17 Mar 2018 00:58
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Hi Rob , Just listened to your interview with Miranda, well done to yourself as well as her for her thoughts to your's and all of our concerns, she seems truly with us, every body should go to it and listen to it as well of sending it by email to Tony Mestrov and Co., Lets all get in and send it to them and then we can judge them truly by posting any reply on here, to show the industry what our replies are coming from within ?? Bob Glover
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6018 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Mar 2018 01:27
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Rob Ingram wrote:
Follow the link below and go to around the 34 minute mark.
Well done Rob! we could all sense and appreciate your concerns! Gladys hasn't changed anything Baird introduced to close the Industry down. Watching her being interviewed over the Stadiums Debacle you can only envisage this was part of Teflon Mikes plans. Guess who will win the Contract? Guess which Bank will under/write all procedures? Gladys talks, but someone else is pulling the strings! still Would you build a home! only to have the builder tell you it needs ripping down and replacing in 18 yrs time? Did they have a GUARANTEE LIFE EXPECTANCY with ANZ? Why aren't people asking? Sorry Glady's is paying for her Premiers Ticket!...With Billions of Tax/Payer money!
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 17 Mar 2018 01:52
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NSW has long been the feeder state for pups, whack a pup Bond on breeders and reduce the national puppy pool, dead set GRUBS !
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 17 Mar 2018 03:07
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Their plan is to close the industry. Little by little, bit by bit.
Slowly and surely. Multi million dollar Integrity and Welfare Units. You know and I know better.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 17 Mar 2018 04:02
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Rob Ingram wrote:
Follow the link below and go to around the 34 minute mark.
The passion is still there but the flame has gone out.
It's the same old story with most that have enjoyed this industry for generations before the do-gooder stepped in & over-regulated it to death.
When we're gone & have nothing left to do, we'll have our revenge.
John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 17 Mar 2018 04:05
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I said it before and I will say it again there in bed with the greens and the rspca and the fat cats that run the gra are getting huge wages to do nothing but to get more money from us and close us down I use to breed up to twenty to thirty litters a year now I am lucky to do six why cost and know help from the powers to be.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 17 Mar 2018 05:39
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Rob Ingram wrote:
People need to email Miranda Devine. With genuine issues. We need to get it back into the public option stages. Political parties only listen when they are losing public support
ray hadley and alan jones need to be made aware too.
this is where robert borsak needs to stand up for us and go on the radio telling these same people above also imo.
surely he is fully aware how bad things r heading yeah?
Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1548 Dogs 40 / Races 3 17 Mar 2018 10:15
Trent that is the sort of thing that needs to be sent to the mainstream media.
Trevor Hagney Australia (Verified User) Posts 81 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Mar 2018 05:18
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The new integrity commission is hell bent on some form of bond to show the world they care about retired dogs. Industry participants who have been privy to an audience with the hierarchy are walking away from these meetings with the same comments, there is no business plan attached to this proposal. Rob Ingram's work on a retirement farm at Narromine is a long way forward of anything the commissioners have leaked. Funding could come from corporate bookmaker dividends the industry still hasn't received. To fund this proposal with a levy on breeders at the start of a dogs life will stifle breeding to the point where an undersupply of stock will be guaranteed in two years time. With NSW and VIC supplying around 75% of Australasia's racing stock this could have devastating consequences. The commission is also hell bent on isolating itself from participants, much to the annoyance of nearly every participant. You could read into this that they are prepared to forego the wealth of knowledge and experience that exists in the industry to negate the chance of another Rodney Potter situation.
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