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Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 01:38
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i have an outcross bitch to an american sire ...that im thinking of using to breed ..she hasnt done a lot yet .but shes 3 from last 4 in country and she gets the 520 easy and now stepping up to 600 ..she has a bit of speed and showing good strength and good chase.
I remeber reading what PAW said about the outcross , something like when using an overseas sire its not so much the first progeny ...but pick the bitches that have strength from that litter and then breed from that ?
Im wondering if some of the expererts on here could help me choose a potential sire please ?
She is kiowa mon manny x Mogambo beach
thanx in advance
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 01:40
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Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 01:44
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bitch is Spookie midnight
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 01 Jun 2018 03:04
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This is one of the best bitches in the USA, In general some of the Bale sires do well with American bitches. CLICK HERE
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 05:50
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thanx Mick ..i notice she is a barcia bale ..quite a few have suggested him as a sire
Jason Lovett Australia (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 5 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 08:38
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If your prepared to take a punt on an unproven sire, Space star is an interesting match up
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 592 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 08:59
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 20:37
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thenkyou for your suggestions ..seems the barcia bale line has been in most suggestions ..my trainer said the same ...like the double of brett leee wheres pedro line with Ritza ...but to be honest i dont know a lot and thats y i was asking
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 20:43
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CLICK HERE i notice with space star that you are heading back to the american line ...with kiowa sweet trey featuring ...but aslo a strong bale dog in bekim bale ...one day ill learn to post the click here testmating onto the page ..thanx for your suggestion
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jun 2018 23:20
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So mick i think the exact point you are making is that ... Goldillocks is a daughter of kiowa m on manny ...and they crossed him with barcia bale tp produce her ! so in many ways its a proven cross in several respects ?
Jason Lovett Australia (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 5 / Races 0 02 Jun 2018 07:01
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Kiowa sweet trey seems to go very well with manny bitches. If you look up Kiow mon manny top second generation, You will also see Surf lorian seems to click well also. Number one dog is out of a surf lorian sire, and no 3 dog is sired by SL. No.6 dog is also out of a Surf lorian sire. That list will give you some indication of what lines Manny bitches are clicking with.
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Jun 2018 07:45
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thanx Jason ..really like surf lorian dogs ...but not had a lot of luck with them ..thanx for the heads up will check the list
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Jun 2018 08:01
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jason i just used the data which sire app ...no 1 was a dog called pau of darkness and no 2 was kiowa producer ...kinda interesting after you suggested kiowa sweet trey
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 02 Jun 2018 08:21
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Davos Jansen wrote:
So mick i think the exact point you are making is that ... Goldillocks is a daughter of kiowa m on manny ...and they crossed him with barcia bale tp produce her ! so in many ways its a proven cross in several respects ?
Yes mate that was my point but I like the Hallucinate and Where's Pedro cross and also the reintroduction of Grove Whisper into the Thai line.
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Jun 2018 08:43
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another sire that pooped up when i just used aussie sires in the data test mating app ...was a dog i already own a pup too in Zulu zeuss ...it kinda looked good to my untrained eye ...i liked seeing brett lee come up 3 times in the test mating ...wonder could anyone lese give me an opinion on that zulu zeuss X spookie midnigh CLICK HERE
Davos Jansen Australia (Verified User) Posts 115 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Jun 2018 08:45
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 02 Aug 2018 23:29
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thanx jim ...i see the price of barcia ...so your suggestuion with son of barcia in ritza lenny and then like you said the match up in the dam lines ...this is desirable you think ? i bet Ritza is not priced like barcia ...was he much of a dog what was his good traits if you kn ow ty ? regds
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 02 Aug 2018 23:58
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Interesting ...Out of the Aussie sires i would use Barcia Bale .. Fernando .
Dundee Osprey Ashton Dee Bee
Surf Lorian Blood ...Head Honcho Blood Brett Lee blood
Waiting for people to cross over to Manny for all of those surf Lorian Head Honcho Barcia Bale and Fernando broods
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 03 Aug 2018 00:30
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Hi Kev its only early in this bitches career ...but im liking her for breeding she is strong chases hard ..a biut of a head case though too ...seems barcia is a good fit according to quite a few ...but hes 5.5 k and proably more if he is around when i need him ...someone suggested one of his sons ritza lenny ...i kinda liked the look of it ...on paper ? Apparently ritza was a real strong hared chasing dog that never backed off ...raced much of his career with a toe injury ..anyway just looking for value as well ..
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 03 Aug 2018 01:20
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He was a great chasing dog, very fast and well bred from a litter with some fast pups in it
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
