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Michaele Alderdice Australia (Verified User) Posts 569 Dogs 0 / Races 1 07 Feb 2019 03:02
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Kind words Sandro , Thankyou . I hope your right . The pups I have by Andos Mac are crazy keen and look amazing . I will use Pindari express one day also . Fastest dog I have seen . Hes simply breathtaking .
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 07 Feb 2019 04:02
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I have already done testmatings for all of my bitches and even some of their bitch pups. I am not concerned about injuries with him as I dont think they have been anything major and I think Tracey gives him plenty of time to get over them. I see it as a bonus for his stud career the fact she looks after him so well and holds his long term health at a high interest. Dogs that are as quick as him are a rarity, I never thought I would ever see a dog break 22 seconds at Bulli, a whole 0.25 quicker than Barcia Bale who was a freak himself. His pedigree has the insurance of his 1/2 brother as extra evidence he will be successful at stud, plus a few smart ones in his own litter. He also has the bonus of suiting so many bitches. I hope he gets a little bit of luck to show us on the big stage to see how good he really is, as I think he will only be more impressive over 520m. Go Pindari !!!
Hayden Goody Australia (Verified User) Posts 209 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Feb 2019 05:05
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No doubt he will run a solid 520 as I think he did trial 29.40 odd at sandown when he was going to contest the Melbourne cup, my biggest concern is how he will handle running around tight tracks like Wentworth park in a full field as he seems to be a genuine 1 turn speed dog, I'd rather see him contest all the country cups in NSW and Vic against the fastest dogs in the country as I prefer that style of racing and he seems more suited to it, unfortunately that's not where the big dollars are and breeders don't seem to take much notice of those dogs either
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Feb 2019 06:55
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I remember watching Brother Fox live breaking the world record at Harold Park and getting goosebumps this fella has the ability to do the same.Its a joy watching elite greyhounds
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 07 Feb 2019 07:27
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kenneth markham wrote:
I remember watching Brother Fox live breaking the world record at Harold Park and getting goosebumps this fella has the ability to do the same.Its a joy watching elite greyhounds
I'm with you Ken, I was there the night he did that.
Another great one turn dog was Early Copy who sired plenty of two turn champions e.g. Gliders Son etc
More recently Primo Uno and Where's Pedro won predominantly on one turn tracks and it hasn't stopped them producing city class dogs
Speed and Class.....you either have it or you don't
Colin Bermingham Australia (Verified User) Posts 340 Dogs 4 / Races 17 07 Feb 2019 11:53
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Old breeding axion 500-600m bitches x strong 1 turn dogs or dogs that have performed strongly on both. Theres no doubt dogs that can run breathtaking times on the big speed tracks over 450m and up make good sires
Hayden Goody Australia (Verified User) Posts 209 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2019 08:57
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I don't remember saying they couldn't make good sires, just that breeders don't really use dogs that were predominately 1 turn dogs, if they did some of these guys would have been used alot more, Crump, Walk Hard, Ronan Izmir, Aston Bolero, Luca Neveelk and even Paw Licking has taken years to get a few services, and I'm sure I've left a few good dogs out too
Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1438 Dogs 24 / Races 126 08 Feb 2019 09:03
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It may only be a matter of time, but at present he hasn't won a decent race or beaten any quality dogs or fields. Too early to judge him, wait another 10-15 starts
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 08 Feb 2019 09:53
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Anthony McVicker wrote:
It may only be a matter of time, but at present he hasn't won a decent race or beaten any quality dogs or fields. Too early to judge him, wait another 10-15 starts
I have to agree. As quick as he is currently he's a fast but inconsistent 5th grader.
Hopefully its only a matter of time. Next weeks bulli cup heats could be his breakout moment
Nathan Bendeich Australia (Verified User) Posts 1222 Dogs 13 / Races 0 08 Feb 2019 10:00
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Matt James wrote:
Anthony McVicker wrote:
It may only be a matter of time, but at present he hasn't won a decent race or beaten any quality dogs or fields. Too early to judge him, wait another 10-15 starts
I have to agree. As quick as he is currently he's a fast but inconsistent 5th grader
So just picture this dog in your kennel block Has averaged a trec every 4 starts and ran one bad race placing 11 from 12 races Bred half brother to andos mac
What are you waiting to see about ? And if youd describe this dog in your kennel block as a inconsistent 5th grader All I would do is scratch my head and walk out ..... sorry Matt and co
Harsh and exaggerating of underwhelming judgement thus far imop
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 08 Feb 2019 10:13
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:
Matt James wrote:
Anthony McVicker wrote:
It may only be a matter of time, but at present he hasn't won a decent race or beaten any quality dogs or fields. Too early to judge him, wait another 10-15 starts
I have to agree. As quick as he is currently he's a fast but inconsistent 5th grader
So just picture this dog in your kennel block Has averaged a trec every 4 starts and ran one bad race placing 11 from 12 races Bred half brother to andos mac
What are you waiting to see about ? And if youd describe this dog in your kennel block as a inconsistent 5th grader All I would do is scratch my head and walk out ..... sorry Matt and co
Harsh and exaggerating of underwhelming judgement thus far imop
Couldn't have said that any better Nathan
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 08 Feb 2019 10:49
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Hayden Goody wrote:
just that breeders don't really use dogs that were predominately 1 turn dogs
& that's probably why the bred has shortened over distant over the past 30 years. Running over a "ONE TURN 457 metres", is a tougher run than running a "2 TURN 520m". But most wouldn't realize that due to experience...And I don't blame them due to these great SPEED tracks that have been closed down over the past 30 years. Harold Park, Singleton & Cessnock. Before Harold Park closed down, if you had a dog that could run 26.2, you were guaranteed 200 bitches. Brother Fox is a great example...& one of the all-time greats, if not the greatest.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 08 Feb 2019 11:03
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:
So just picture this dog in your kennel block Has averaged a trec every 4 starts and ran one bad race placing 11 from 12 races Bred half brother to andos mac
If he was in my kennel block I wouldn't want people talking about him going to stud and putting the kiss of death on him. I'm not arguing if he has ability, I'm saying he's had 12 starts and let him prove himself as a group dog for the next year then worry about the other stuff after.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 08 Feb 2019 11:13
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Personal Matt, I couldn't give a RATS if he was my dog & the whole world was talking about him.
If you believe in the KISS OF DEATH, you may as well lock the front door & don't leave the house.
It wouldn't matter if P.E. was a FFA or a 5th graded.
The dog is BLOODY fast (as u state) & that's why we're talking about him.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 08 Feb 2019 16:57
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His sister Dolly Mac? She'll probably return better than ever now I've written this, but everyone was saying she was a superstar and just going to win every group race.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 08 Feb 2019 23:03
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This is only my opinion but he is the fastest dog on one turn I have seen since Black Magic Opal, Barcia Bale and El Grand Senor and I definitely put him up there with Brett Lee and Brother Fox
Young dogs with limited race experience just don't do what he's done
He is arguably a far better greyhound than his own sire, Fabregas
If he can get his mojo around a two-turn track , he will even destroy more records
Hayden Goody Australia (Verified User) Posts 209 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Feb 2019 01:22
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
This is only my opinion but he is the fastest dog on one turn I have seen since Black Magic Opal, Barcia Bale and El Grand Senor and I definitely put him up there with Brett Lee and Brother Fox
Exactly he has the speed and chase to break nearly every 1 turn track record in the country on his night and in the right conditions and that in itself should warrant him plenty of bitches at stud without even mentioning him being a half brother to a Melbourne Cup winner and just in general how well he is bred, all I'm saying is IF he can't perform the same on 2 turn tracks I would hate to see his career go to waste running sloppy unplaced races around Wenty and Sandown trying to win a group race just so he can prove his worth as a stud prospect, but he may be another Zambora Brockie, Unlawful Entry type of dog that can run freak times and do it on both types of tracks, which is very possible
Hayden Goody Australia (Verified User) Posts 209 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Feb 2019 01:40
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(If I sound like I'm doubting the dog trust me I'm not I'm just being selfish because I'm a much bigger fan of watching FAST dogs like this bloke go head to head in clean races with big straights so see who is the fastest over messy 2 turn races where the dog that leads to the first turn usually wins because of a massive collision that the other dogs inevitably get in somewhere along the way)
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 09 Feb 2019 02:08
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
This is only my opinion but he is the fastest dog on one turn I have seen since Black Magic Opal, Barcia Bale and El Grand Senor and I definitely put him up there with Brett Lee and Brother Fox
Young dogs with limited race experience just don't do what he's done
He is arguably a far better greyhound than his own sire, Fabregas
If he can get his mojo around a two-turn track , he will even destroy more records
Given his racing pattern, I still rate Whisky Assassin as the fastest one turn dog Ive ever seen. Pindari definately in the elite group at such an early stage of his career, if he stays injury free the sky could be the limit
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 09 Feb 2019 03:38
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Glenn Hatton wrote:
Sandro Bechini wrote:
This is only my opinion but he is the fastest dog on one turn I have seen since Black Magic Opal, Barcia Bale and El Grand Senor and I definitely put him up there with Brett Lee and Brother Fox
Young dogs with limited race experience just don't do what he's done
He is arguably a far better greyhound than his own sire, Fabregas
If he can get his mojo around a two-turn track , he will even destroy more records
Given his racing pattern, I still rate Whisky Assassin as the fastest one turn dog Ive ever seen. Pindari definately in the elite group at such an early stage of his career, if he stays injury free the sky could be the limit
Glenn
Then there is Bartrim Bale, who came from last I think to break the Bulli 472m record
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
