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Do you have questions about breeding theories?
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Trevor Hagney
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23 Jul 2018 10:06


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Carly,GWIC was enacted to implement Morris Iemma's reform package.
Item 64 and 65 deal with breeding caps.
64.Industry should advocate for a national approach to breeding controls.
65.Additional options............,should be considered in two years informed by more robust data.
It would be remiss of the commission not to follow this charter.
I will enquire about automatic granting of beeding ID upon compliant submission of paperwork.Will use one of my racing bitches as a guinea pig.If I start the process today (dna etc),I would realistically think two months before I get an outcome.
A modern sporting organisation should have quicker processes than that,one would think.


Carly Absalom
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23 Jul 2018 10:37


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Trevor, the problem is that those reforms were based on the figures in the McHugh Report that we all know are false. I think it would be remiss of GWIC to base reforms off old, bad guestimates rather than using the correct and current data that they would have access to.

Let us know how it goes.



Trevor Hagney
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23 Jul 2018 10:46


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Unfortunately the McHugh report is the knife in our back.I can only see that report being debunked with one person's help,and that is Mr Borsak.


Mark Donohue
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24 Jul 2018 01:37


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My Borsak will have a lot more to say when Parliament resumes.


Michael Barry
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24 Jul 2018 02:35


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Trevor Hagney wrote:

Unfortunately the McHugh report is the knife in our back.I can only see that report being debunked with one person's help,and that is Mr Borsak.

wasnt there hundreds of thousands of dollars donated to challenge this report in court , what happened there ? or is this report still the Gospel ?


Mark Donohue
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24 Jul 2018 04:57


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Try about $640,000 and didnt they fail at the examination stage (first hurdle)?



Noel McCaskie
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24 Jul 2018 06:26


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Is this puppy bond in as yet,HOW MUCH is it and where can this be found??




Trevor Hagney
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24 Jul 2018 07:29


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Mark Donohue wrote:

Try about $640,000 and didnt they fail at the examination stage (first hurdle)?

At the time our top brief,former Commonwealth Solicitor-general Mr Bennett did say that with expert forensic statistical analysis the McHugh report would be declared invalid. He mentioned time and access to figures a constraint. Even though government were getting edgy,they would have known this fact as well.
And what did we get out of this episode-shitty legislation,a reform package that gives control of the industry to independents and activists,and unwanted, behind the scenes intervention by government.
Two years ago we had zero political experience and got pummeled, now we are slowly gaining a voice.
Like the slogan of the workers of Australia trying to get a pay rise,we need to "CHANGE THE RULES".



Shane Carter
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24 Jul 2018 09:27


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The bottom line is NSW doesnt have the numbers now to support TAB/City races & its only going to get much worse, even before these new restrictions ...this will be the death of Greyhounds in NSW as we know it ..ironically the only thing that could save us is 99 year contact which required GRNSW to support X amount of races or penalties will be applied...QLD realised quickly that need breeding to increase dramatically to keep racing feasible, so I wonder how long it will take NSW to realise the same?? When they have 6 maiden races at Wenty every week with 4-6 dog fields ...??

Cheers


Bruce Teague
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24 Jul 2018 23:15


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Trevor,

Post-Alliance industry members were told that was as far as things could go and so it would not be worth following up the legal (or McHugh) problems. We never heard exactly what or why.

At the same time there was also much talk about state breeding restrictions but, in public, that fizzled out. It smacks of some sort of "gentleman's agreement" behind the scenes, just as may have occurred with the potential legal challenges by Alliance. Still, we are only guessing.

We then ended up with a Reform Panel (a misnomer, if I have ever heard one) where there was only one person with greyhound racing experience. He may well have been pushing the case for participants (we don't know due to confidentiality provisions) but the outcome was nevertheless unhelpful for greyhound people - ie excessive regulation.

In total, aside from the Macquarie St march, no-one has protested formally and officially. Borsak is an exception (and worthwhile) but that amounts to playing on their ground and by their rules. It is nowhere near enough. He needs much more to hang his hat on.

The point is that when someone - government or whoever - pulls the rug from under you it is essential to make a noise properly and legally. That includes everything from improper or excessive regulations to administrative shortcomings to decisions which have no genuine backing to incompetent behaviour. And you do it at every step. Never let up.

Ricky Stuart has got the entire NRL organisation in a tizzy because it failed to reasonably control employee errors or to implement a better system. As a result, things will change. No noise - no change.

The playing surfaces at (then) Etihad stadium, Lang Park, a crossing at Doomben, the entire surface at Eagle Farm, a jockeys' strike at Bathurst gallops and the Kensington track at Randwick all got attention because people made a noise.

If you do 80 kph in a school zone you get thumped while the vast majority of drivers continue normally.

Miners mounted a big publicity campaign to protest a supertax being applied by Canberra. The miners won. It was unfair and counter-productive.

GM food production was banned in all states but now they are pulling their heads in because there is absolutely nothing to show that any harm is caused and that many benefits accrue.

As for subsidised wind farms and skyrocketing electricity bills ... words fail me.

And so it goes on. Always call the bluff.



Michael Worth
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No Mark its true , even though everyone knows any mating mating can produce a champion. But you can use any Sire, even FR can get a look in . ROFLMAO. Leave it too the expert panel with the Chrystal ball too work out which bitches will produce. Maybe we could hold them accountable when it doesnt work out , or maybe we will getting them to do our testmatings, wouldnt that be fun. Cheers

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