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Mick Ryan
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Barts Outofmyway CLICK HERE
KC and All dominant son, who was a 2017 All American.
77 lb speed and power rusher that crushed fellow All American Kinda Cruel Red in 5 of 7 head to head match ups.

He has the phenomenal Irish damline that goes back to Dís Kim.
Vials have arrived in AU. This is a son worth checking into. I will be handling his semen as the AU Studmaster and will be giving 6 vials away to females in season. This dog ran the fastest time of the year at the top speed track (WD) in the USA and there are videos available.

Feedback welcome!
Mick Ryan Ė YankeeSires@gmail.com



Nathan Bendeich
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12 Jun 2019 22:36


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Mick Ryan wrote:

Barts Outofmyway CLICK HERE
KC and All dominant son, who was a 2017 All American.
77 lb speed and power rusher that crushed fellow All American Kinda Cruel Red in 5 of 7 head to head match ups.

He has the phenomenal Irish damline that goes back to Dís Kim.
Vials have arrived in AU. This is a son worth checking into. I will be handling his semen as the AU Studmaster and will be giving 6 vials away to females in season. This dog ran the fastest time of the year at the top speed track (WD) in the USA and there are videos available.

Feedback welcome!
Mick Ryan Ė YankeeSires@gmail.com

Hi mick

Looks a nice prospect , interesting breeding lines through his damside
Toms the Best caught my eye , what a sire , looks to have had the ability to throw good strength and volume in his time at a solid 18%

Nice size aswell , well built looks a treat

Can I ask how your planning to give away the first 6 straws to this guy ?

Good luck mate keep us posted




Trent Wrigley
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12 Jun 2019 23:56


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Watching replay when he beat kinda cruel red showed he had pace and strength nice score for Aussie lines there


Mick Ryan
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Hello Nathan,
Vials are for any bitch in season, raced or not raced. We say "in" season and I believe you say "on" season. That is my stipulation. I don't want people hold vials or it defeats the purpose of giving breedings away. He ran multiple top ten times for 2016 and was named as an All American in 2017. If you get a chance, I would encourage anyone to view his videos posted on GD.

His pedigree seems suited to cross well here and being a speed dog with rush and power that could go past the 500 meter mark is something that I hope will attract breeders of all types.

Nathan,
What type of female are you thinking of taking to him?


Mick Ryan
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Hi Trent,
Red was quite the speed dog himself, so Bart shows his versatility when he displays his ability to break out on top and open up or come from off the pace. No many dogs could have done that to Red.

One thing I want to say is when I use Kinda Cruel Red as a way of showcasing Barts skillset, it's a total compliment to Red. He is like the gold standard. He's a true All American in is own right and I am just stating the facts and in not way demeaning the dog. He accomplished quite a lot. Bart in my opinion just took it to a whole new level.

Trent - appreciate your comments! With Fernando Bale, his sons and the other successful KC and All dogs soon to be at stud, Bart will have plenty of competition.

This is why I am giving people a reason to breed to such a well pedigreed and accomplished dog. I'm excited to see what broods come his way.



Trent Wrigley
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Yes few new boys coming on market soon itís a tuff gig but what he has shown on track he will be hard to pass by when choosing a sire to breed with I wish u good luck my current girls are to young but future wise he is on my radar now thatís for sure.


Simon Milgate
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Just looking at the last sire his damline produed B s O Grady who is somewhat similar to Boomw I noticed only the 334 pups registered (underused)? and further to that his top second offspring being by Trent Lee (Brett Lee) would offer an opportunity for breeders to outcross and come back to Brett Lee line sires. Longshot maybe but looking at options for breeders considering using Boomw in this competitive market.

Bos ogrady x boomw sister

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Ryan Vanderwert
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That's a good case you make Simon from a general linebreeding perspective, however from an Aus linebreeding perspective with an outcross in this case I wld want that Cee Bar Star line who gives up Max Moss(Elsie Moss) in x, and/or in the least that Dutch Bahama line which gives up Sky Jet(Gorgeous Babe) also in x. Both are available thru KC's damside in x in Boomw's ped but at a quick glance neither are in x in B's ped.

Subtle but extremely important distinction imo yet a great linebreeding parallel at face value between the two as Simon has shown. Cheers.


Mick Ryan
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Hi Simon,
Wow, you are going back a bit with B's O'Grady (2002) but he was a super dog. I consider myself good friends of the Bartley family and we have spoken in depth about B's O'Grady. They've had very good luck with him as a sire, but out of them not many people bred to him. Part of that was the number of quality Dodge sires available and to this day there are still a great number of Dodge topside sires out there throwing quite well. Where B's O'Grady has made an even bigger impact for their farm and others is as a damsire. His bitches have thrown some top outstand racers.
Barts Girl CLICK HERE Barts Bold Ruler CLICK HERE Barts Mr Peabody CLICK HERE Barts Pocketaces CLICK HERE Moral Code CLICK HERE
I do like your testmating with a double Dodge and D's Kim.

That double Dodge has worked quite well here in the USA. The winningest litter in almost two decades when it comes to AA and SA (Stake wins) has a double up of Dodge. Check out this litter:
CBJ Irish Cream, Butterfinger, KitKat, etc.
CLICK HERE and you'll notice their damline goes back to D's Kim

Nice post Simon, teaches me a thing or two and helps me recall breedings and crosses I have long forgotten!

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