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Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Oct 2018 19:53
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Yes Sandro, thats my thinking to as previous post. If you know the whereabouts of those bitches Id be interested. Cheers
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 26 Oct 2018 20:20
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Hi Michael
Pretty sure that they were in Victoria and Qld but you can find them in Fasttrack.
Those mentioned were top line bitches and the breeders may have their own plans but you never know, there may be a chance to get a sister to any of them to lease out for a litter
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Oct 2018 20:33
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Yes no worries mate thanks for the info. Cheers
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 27 Oct 2018 14:28
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grant thomas wrote:
Ryan...interested to hear what you think of R.A. over a Kinloch Brae bitch...
Grant I don't look at breeding in that way, prefering to match up a sire of choice damlines at a v/high percentage to what's been specifically successful with the broods damline.
I've always thought the success of Kinloch in this country was due to the linebreeding back to cornerstone brood Elsie Moss in the x path thru Max Moss, as if you have a brood bitch that carries Temlee in x you'll see Max Moss' brother Mister Moss also in x in Temlee's pedigree. Linebreeding in x to a cornerstone brood is gold imo and there is no stud dog in this country atm that carries Elsie Moss that close in his pedigree other than Kinloch Brae. Cheers. ================================================================
david stojanov wrote:
Royal Assassin is very closely related to Buck Fever you didnt mean spring gun did you?
Hi David,
If you are referring to what I wrote, I was referring to the niche that Buck Fever carries that covers 88% of Royal Assassin's pedigree within 5 generations CLICK HERE (illustrated thru Buck Fever's sister).
Too many gaps here for my liking CLICK HERE altho agree there are some similarities.
Correctly you've pointed out that Spring Gun CLICK HERE (illustrated thru his sister), carries a similar niche which covers Royal Assassins pedigree also at 88% within 5 generations as promises free and nation parade are also cross duplicated in the blood quota table below. I just prefer to rely on Head Honcho himself rather than rely on others in his pedigree to complete that niche. Cheers.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 13 Feb 2023 08:58
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Collision (2001)
Feral Franky (2017) & Good Odds Harada (2017)
Good Odds Cash (2019)
Collision sire line all of a sudden is a commercial reality.
Mitchell Carter Australia (Verified User) Posts 63 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Feb 2023 00:47
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I whelped a litter of Elite State Pups on the 1/12/22 for an owner, they are actually for sale in the classified section. They will be ear branded shortly and ready to go. 8 Bitches and 2 Dogs, all balc with white markings. Lovely little litter, good to see old dogs gettinga chance again!
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Feb 2023 01:45
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Just pie in the sky as far as chase goes! Not saying that older sires did not produce chase. Just that the facts are, the system now employed does not give the majority of pups, their natural ability to chase because of the failure of rewards. So these past sires would suffer the same results unfortunately.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 14 Feb 2023 07:42
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Darren Leeson wrote:
Collision (2001)
Feral Franky (2017) & Good Odds Harada (2017)
Good Odds Cash (2019)
Collision sire line all of a sudden is a commercial reality.
Hostile and Dyna Villa super underrated
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 14 Feb 2023 08:01
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Agree Matt! Afterall no matter the sire, were all trying to get into the sire of our choice elite % and on the whole FAILED %! not winning in the city.
The stats below are in the Metro area for entire 2022.
Fernando Bale (84% fail) Barcia (84% fail) Aston Dee Bee (83% fail) Zambora Brockie (83% fail)
And so on.
Why, just going to Fernando &/or Barcia, is nothing but a dream, for 84 / 100 breeders and purchasers!
Name Starts Wins 2nds 3rds Prizemoney Win % Place % Points
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 14 Feb 2023 11:23
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Darren Leeson wrote:
Agree Matt! Afterall no matter the sire, were all trying to get into the sire of our choice elite % and on the whole FAILED %! not winning in the city.
The stats below are in the Metro area for entire 2022.
Fernando Bale (84% fail) Barcia (84% fail) Aston Dee Bee (83% fail) Zambora Brockie (83% fail)
And so on.
Why, just going to Fernando &/or Barcia, is nothing but a dream, for 84 / 100 breeders and purchasers!
It's a great theory but it's still probably slightly flattering to a lot of sires
Eg. If she's a pearl or wow she's fast win 8 in a row that means 50 starters by their sire have to lose to give the winning percentage. It's city winner percentages, not individual city winners
Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1439 Dogs 24 / Races 126 14 Feb 2023 11:40
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Interesting numbers with the dog at the bottom of the list. I have 7 going to breakers soon
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 17 Feb 2023 06:45
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Hey Darren, was wondering where you found those stats. I have a Razldazl Rioga straw and would like to know his stats. His dam was a freak producer and he is by Brett Lee and 33kg. I always wanted to use him on a performed Kinloch Brae bitch with a touch of Head Honcho. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Feb 2023 07:45
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Matt Griffiths wrote:
Darren Leeson wrote:
Collision (2001)
Feral Franky (2017) & Good Odds Harada (2017)
Good Odds Cash (2019)
Collision sire line all of a sudden is a commercial reality.
Hostile and Dyna Villa super underrated
Long live the sireline strain of Temlee Tangaloa Pretty Short
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 17 Feb 2023 09:04
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michael worth wrote:
Hey Darren, was wondering where you found those stats. I have a Razldazl Rioga straw and would like to know his stats. His dam was a freak producer and he is by Brett Lee and 33kg. I always wanted to use him on a performed Kinloch Brae bitch with a touch of Head Honcho. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers
Hi Michael, Greyhound Recorder metro site stats 2022. Sound thinking. I dont mind an Aston Dee Bee bitch to him. Untapped is interesting.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 17 Feb 2023 09:28
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Thanks for the info Darren, much appreciated. He was a track record holder and has produced a GRP dog. Cheers