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Frederick Anthes Australia (Verified User) Posts 80 Dogs 2 / Races 0 04 Jul 2019 08:53
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would love to get peoples opinions on which Australian stud dogs consistently inject pace into there pups? if you were looking for early speed what stud dogs would you use ?
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 04 Jul 2019 11:08
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Popular sires that are known for early speed are magic sprite and el grand senor. Less appreciated sires that can throw a bit of early toe are kilty lad, keybow, banjo boy and Lochinvar Marlow. I'll be surprised if zinzan Brooke, Aston dee bee, andos Mac and mepunga blazer don't have some pups that can get out of a box
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 05 Jul 2019 01:40
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Fernando Bale
Luke Miller Australia (Verified User) Posts 794 Dogs 56 / Races 17 05 Jul 2019 01:46
Jason Caley Australia (Verified User) Posts 385 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Jul 2019 08:06
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Fernando Bale and Barcia Bale. But as much as ppl hate him as a sire, I would add Shakey Jakey with the caveat better have a good double cross in ancestory at 3/4 gen lines to accentuate that and keep honest on the chase.
Peter Cameron Australia (Verified User) Posts 77 Dogs 10 / Races 4 06 Jul 2019 08:22
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Vanderworp had lightning early speed as a race dog burning off dogs such as Striker Light, Big Flood and Orson Allen. First pups only 4 months old though.
Jason Caley Australia (Verified User) Posts 385 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Jul 2019 09:48
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Peter Cameron wrote:
Vanderworp had lightning early speed as a race dog burning off dogs such as Striker Light, Big Flood and Orson Allen. First pups only 4 months old though.
On bloods alone, completely agree with you that Orson Allen looks promising. Time will tell I suppose. Can't comment on Vanderworp as not a breeder. I just look at interesting combinations to take on even if not performing. Cosmic Rumble pups are usually great beginners in the first sections but not overly strong.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 07:45
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vee man vane produces good early speed,
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 07 Jul 2019 20:55
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Most of those Aussie stud dogs mentioned can indeed bring in early pace generally Fernando will produce in his offspring what the pace or strength the bitches he mates had
but, intense in-breeding in a pedigree can also introduce great pace even when utilising, and reinforcing, ancestors with great stamina
look at the example of Elise Moss (3x2 to Chief Havoc) and Alice Dooley (3x2 to Brother Fox)
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