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Frederick Anthes
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04 Jul 2019 10:53


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would love to get peoples opinions on which Australian stud dogs consistently inject pace into there pups? if you were looking for early speed what stud dogs would you use ?


Sandro Bechini
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04 Jul 2019 10:55


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Magic Sprite, Black Magic Opal, Barcia Bale, Fabregas



Nathan Bendeich
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04 Jul 2019 11:00


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El grand senor


Matt James
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04 Jul 2019 13:08


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Popular sires that are known for early speed are magic sprite and el grand senor.
Less appreciated sires that can throw a bit of early toe are kilty lad, keybow, banjo boy and Lochinvar Marlow.
I'll be surprised if zinzan Brooke, Aston dee bee, andos Mac and mepunga blazer don't have some pups that can get out of a box


Edward (ted) Howard
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05 Jul 2019 03:40


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Fernando Bale


Luke Miller
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05 Jul 2019 03:46


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El Grand Senor, Elite State and Keybow.



Glenn Hatton
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05 Jul 2019 04:03


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Fernando bale, Fernando bale...then Fernando bale

Keybow off limited numbers looks to do same



Jason Caley
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06 Jul 2019 10:06


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Fernando Bale and Barcia Bale. But as much as ppl hate him as a sire, I would add Shakey Jakey with the caveat better have a good double cross in ancestory at 3/4 gen lines to accentuate that and keep honest on the chase.


Peter Cameron
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06 Jul 2019 10:22


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Vanderworp had lightning early speed as a race dog burning off dogs such as Striker Light, Big Flood and Orson Allen. First pups only 4 months old though.



Jason Caley
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06 Jul 2019 11:48


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Peter Cameron wrote:

Vanderworp had lightning early speed as a race dog burning off dogs such as Striker Light, Big Flood and Orson Allen. First pups only 4 months old though.

On bloods alone, completely agree with you that Orson Allen looks promising. Time will tell I suppose. Can't comment on Vanderworp as not a breeder. I just look at interesting combinations to take on even if not performing. Cosmic Rumble pups are usually great beginners in the first sections but not overly strong.


Michael Barry
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07 Jul 2019 09:45


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vee man vane produces good early speed,


David Brasch
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07 Jul 2019 22:55


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Most of those Aussie stud dogs mentioned can indeed bring in early pace
generally Fernando will produce in his offspring what the pace or strength the bitches he mates had

but, intense in-breeding in a pedigree can also introduce great pace even when utilising, and reinforcing, ancestors with great stamina

look at the example of Elise Moss (3x2 to Chief Havoc) and Alice Dooley (3x2 to Brother Fox)

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Frederick Anthes
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10 Jul 2019 22:17


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Thanks for all the reply’s


Frederick Anthes
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10 Jul 2019 22:27


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Could you get away with inbreeding as much as this mating?

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David Brasch
Australia
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10 Jul 2019 23:58


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This "might" be better

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or this

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Matt James
Australia
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11 Jul 2019 00:57


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David Brasch wrote:

This "might" be better

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or this

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I'm not looking to disagree with David Brasch, but slightly like for like of his choices that should add a bit more early toe

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John Little
Australia
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11 Jul 2019 14:34


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I like worm burner


Bruce Teague
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12 Jul 2019 07:28


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David Brasch wrote:

This "might" be better

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or this

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David,

Far be it for me to second guess you but I am struggling to see where the early speed is present in these examples.

And what is "Powered"?




Patrick D'Arcy
Australia
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12 Jul 2019 10:54


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One from left field... Bookkeeper


Daniel Evans
Australia
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12 Jul 2019 13:24


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Keybow all day. Only gotta look at the replays of all his pups wins on his facebook page

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