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Irish Sire " Never Give Up "page  1 2 


Larry Valenti
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08 Sep 2019 03:14


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The Irish Sire never give up sired 2 litters in Australia in 2012 .
Is there any information regarding contact for frozen or anything at all please.



Kevin Wright
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08 Sep 2019 04:59


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Larry Valenti wrote:

The Irish Sire never give up sired 2 litters in Australia in 2012 .
Is there any information regarding contact for frozen or anything at all please.

I think the late Roger Clarke handled his semen ...I would ring GA .




Larry Valenti
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Thanks for that Kev



Larry Valenti
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Apparently according to GA their are 2 straws still in Australia. However GA can't tell the owners. So if anyone knows of them please contact me.



Kevin Wright
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Larry Valenti wrote:

Apparently according to GA their are 2 straws still in Australia. However GA can't tell the owners. So if anyone knows of them please contact me.

Larry i would ask on facebook in the groups for info relating to the vials .I think the Vials will be in Victoria ....Never give up Larry there is hope ..
.Can i ask you why you are chasing this semen and who is the bitch you are using it on ....It always interests me when a older sire is used especially when sire is underrated .....It is great to see people still using these Kind of Sires it helps protect our breed ....and you never know i what you could get .Cheers



Larry Valenti
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10 Sep 2019 09:16


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Sure kev the female is slippery Parker it's the best match up I can come up with.
He throws good pups % wise and he would throw a future brood I think.


Matt Griffiths
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Not exact same matings, but all come from similar lines

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And there are plenty from that line that could've/should've been superstars if it wasn't for injury





Simon Milgate
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Hi Larry, are GA able to contact owner on your behalf and pass your details on to them? No harm in asking,goodluck with your efforts.



Larry Valenti
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Hi Simon thanks . I'll try that idea tomorrow.

Hi Matt that's good stuff, but I put in weeks and weeks of test mating. Thanks to GD for allowing me access to their database and their testmating function. I have bred lots of pups before , but not as thoroughly as this proposed mating .


Matt Griffiths
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Larry Valenti wrote:

Hi Simon thanks . I'll try that idea tomorrow.

Hi Matt that's good stuff, but I put in weeks and weeks of test mating. Thanks to GD for allowing me access to their database and their testmating function. I have bred lots of pups before , but not as thoroughly as this proposed mating .

I wasn't saying your mating was wrong in any way, I actually think spiral nakita is a bit of a key and your mating is very good

CLICK HERE

All I'm saying is if there is only a couple of straws available and you don't get one in time you have good options still in magic sprite and cosmic rumble lines



Larry Valenti
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No worries Matt. There are 2 NGU straws in Australia. Just I have to locate them. I have a couple of months up my sleeve .



Kevin Wright
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Larry Valenti wrote:

Sure kev the female is slippery Parker it's the best match up I can come up with.
He throws good pups % wise and he would throw a future brood I think.

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Interesting considering NGU is a 2001 whelp good luck with the pups please let me know how you go ..
if you cannot get any NGU you could look at using this boy
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Ryan Vanderwert
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Larry Valenti wrote:

Sure kev the female is slippery Parker it's the best match up I can come up with.
He throws good pups % wise and he would throw a future brood I think.

breeding for the long term.....wow Larry, no one does that anymore.

as you probably are already aware NGU's dam Dalcash Lament gives up an 88% niche within 5 gens to none other than Waverly Supreme if you check the blood quota table below CLICK HERE , so a Model Belinda type may well be on the cards......well done Larry!



Larry Valenti
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Thanks Ryan. I rate your opinion extremely highly. If I can't get NGU I won't settle for anything else .


John Tuohy
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I have semen available in Australia with Marianne Newell stored with SOI Calga. Email me for details [email protected]



Simon Milgate
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Larry Valenti wrote:

Sure kev the female is slippery Parker it's the best match up I can come up with.
He throws good pups % wise and he would throw a future brood I think.

breeding for the long term.....wow Larry, no one does that anymore.

as you probably are already aware NGU's dam Dalcash Lament gives up an 88% niche within 5 gens to none other than Waverly Supreme if you check the blood quota table below CLICK HERE , so a Model Belinda type may well be on the cards......well done Larry!

Werty, you must of missed the hottest new topic on GD 200 views and no replies lol.

CLICK HERE

Larry have you got something in mind if you're able to breed a brood worth breeding with?





Simon Milgate
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I see the great producer Razaldazl Pearl and Dalcash Lament have a few common ancestors aswell.

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Larry Valenti
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Simon I'm just concentrating on breeding this litter. All my licenses are in WA and have expired as I have incurable cancer and I spent some time in hospital and recovery from a bone marrow transplant. Now they want me start again with licensing . As you know its hard to get the bug out of your system. I've been in greyhounds 40 yrs and this is a good venture but a challenge.laws are tight now



Ryan Vanderwert
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Simon Milgate wrote:

I see the great producer Razaldazl Pearl and Dalcash Lament have a few common ancestors aswell.

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At face value appears so, however when you look at the blood quota table below I can only see Sand Man, Manorville major, Balinderry Moth and Westmead Kim cross duplicated.....its a trap for young players m8, haha

What this means to me is on the 5th generation line of Lughill Jo's ped that only 6 of the 16 dogs on that line are cross duplicated, each line worth 6.25% makes it approx 38% in total.

Waverly Supreme over Dalcash Lament, 14 of the 16 dogs in the 5th gen are cross duplicated which makes it approx 88%.

Looks at face value can be very deceiving and costly if you misread them.




Larry Valenti
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I still cant track down the frozen for NGU . Any help at this stage will be much appreciated thanks . BTW SOI dont have any stored . Hi

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