Haven't got stats to back it up, but just from perusing the magazine most months, it seems as though Walnut clinic has a fair few misses, also Craigeburn.

To me, it seems as though Sandown and maybe McIvor road would have the higher rates.

Be interesting if anyone has actually kept any stats on it

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Sandown and Craigieburn and Mciver rd are doing more than Walnut but on the average they are all the same ...depending on what way you look at it ..

Sandown has the most implants but it dont make them the best Vet ...All of our Vets in Victoria do a great Job and you cannot say anyone is better than some one else they all bring something different to the table ..

We are so lucky to have so many dedicated Greyhounds Vets in Victoria ...

I've also used a sire who's connections advised not to use Craigeburn as they had many failings with their sires conceiving there. I use Sandown anyway regardless due to their top notch communication. Their staff are brilliant

Bitch and sire play a big part also, not just the vet. But if you've been happy with their service and how they've operated in the past, no harm in sticking with them

And yes you do get infertile broodies that play a part too, but I think a lot of the misses/small litters are coming back to the vets that draw the straw more than anything else

That said sires on ice calga followed by Liz browns casino are the only 2 options for implants in NSW imo

one of the best

We are lucky to have so many Great Vets all over Australia and the World .

I dont think its fair to single out one Vet over the other and if you want to get the % of each vet clinic who do implants then you should have at least 5 years of figures ...Then break down the hits and misses ..

I think it has got a lot to do with the follow up testing that is needed these days on Bitches and you cannot blame the Vets they all insert Live semen onto the Horns ...
Every person should at least get a few Follow up Progesterone test to ensure the bitches levels stay in range right up until whelping ...

Maybe these days with Frozen semen playing a huge part in breeding this could have its own effects on the bitches we breed from ...who knows its only been 30 years or so since we started freezing semen maybe this is a underlying factor not taken into account may be further studies should be conducted .

The bitch plays a huge role ..
We don't need to bag the Vets on a Public forum its not right thing to do guys IMO

Maybe we should make some new rules saying all first season broods must get a natural whelping for their first litter like in other parts of the world this works well it helps establish a stud dog and it makes sure the bitches first litter are breed naturally...
after her first litter then she can go frozen AI

the stud master no longer supplies craigieburn , i was informed yesterday , when i bought a straw , its available for me at sandown
6 hour round trip to sandown verses 3 hour to craigieburn

around 10/12 litters at craigieburn no misses , except one when i was informed before the implant that the semen was rubbish and would result in no pups ,it was the bitches last litter so i told him to go ahead , no pups were born , sire brett lee

Next option. Ok i will send picture when bellys full then and get you to send out. No we dont post. Ffs.
So its a another 6 hr round trip for whelping kit now.

I was a pissed off with mcivor,in that i had already done 4hrs round trip to mcivor to leave my girl there. And no one told me that they where not getting straws from that nominated sire before i left.. So 8 hr round trip to pick her up and take to sandown next day..

I Hope the stud masters are not doing deals with selected vets on the side. And the stats backup there concerns..Main reason i used mcivor was the relationship/repore i had with sue and blanche.. And a couple of there nicers nurses.Laura :) And there pricing for greyhound trainer breeders was best around. Not the case anymore lady on desk was less than helpful. And there pricing has all gone up..
To be fair to mcivor my last mating was 8 pup litter done by new lady vet.. Name escapes me atm..
But not surprised if there is a drop off as all that expreince/knowledge, sue had, and her work ethic is not easy replaced..
Micheal bell is my favorite vet but his location to my base now makes it unworkable..

10 pups, 7 dogs 3 bitches

I'd be interested to know the % of viable Semen in the misses from the same sire ? Does anyone have that info ?

Rules State with GA that semen should be at or over 100 million Live sperm POST thaw .
Some Greyhounds give you a lot some dont ...Example is Bombastic Shiraz he could only freeze a few each time but some other greyhounds can split up to a good 6 or 7 ...If splitting 7 your count must be 1.4 billion or over 1 billion .
Some greyhounds Semen comes back at a very high % Post Thaw and some other Greyhounds die off is higher post thaw so who ever freezes the semen must test a pellet post thaw to fully get the right % break down so you divide that by the number of living sperm so that gives you your splits your vials numbers ..

Some sirelines carry traits in there DNA that does get passed onto its offspring this i feel is where we get so many misses with the Bitch you must have follow up Progesterone testing to ensure no abortion or absorption takes place ..

Maybe this has a link to frozen semen that has not been researched yet but i do feel frozen has given us DNA traits that only get multiplied each time we use frozen semen maybe as i have said before all maidon bitches should be served NAtural for there first Matings so that way we ensure all of those 1.4 billion semen have the best chance of throwing on those traits we desire today but i do think Frozen has its drawbacks in regards to bitches more so than the sire ....

I know of some Stud Masters who freeze their vials on the count given on the PRE not the Post thaw..
I know some fill out the vials with semen extender and they dont even bother to check the Die off rate POST THAW ....
No Vet has the right testing machine to count the semen before the implant they only go off if the semen is alive or dead no count is required its not like the VET can dispute the number of live semen he is using on your bitch some may test or count one pellet but that does not give you a very accurate outcome imo

If a Vet does not like the semen he is using he will refuse to use that semen from that stud dog or stud master its the Stud Masters responsibility to ensure he has done the right thing by us the breeders and all vials are at 100mill post thaw

I enjoyed freezing with Paddy and Sure As and it always spun me out to see frozen semen come back to life after it was made into a pellet
I hope that helps Robynne

Thank you Kevin yes very good information.

On another note I was speaking to someone a few days ago who was talking about being worried about misses. My point to him is that I believe people also tend to forget the health status of the bitch when going for implantation and how this can make a huge difference in the strike rate.
You can't always blame the sire ...

No you cant always blame the sire not when there are many other factors involved.