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David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 10 Dec 2019 03:23
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I plan to breed with this bitch , won over 400 520 and 600 very good honest chaser great kennel dog and beautifully put together physically .. abeit she is only 25kg ...so with that in mind ..i have chosen 2 sires that are 35 kg dogs to try and throw some size into her pups .
What iim interested in is the blood lines and breeding match for both sires ..which do you think is the superior match up ? Not necessarily the better dog ! CLICK HERE CLICK HERE
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 10 Dec 2019 09:16
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Nice Qld damline. For me Ritza Lenny is best for your bitch due to his damline, Premier Fantasy & Token Prince Your bitch blood is heavy with Temlee Sire strains, maybe you should consider a bit of outcross ? Might help with better conformation, longer legs Good luck David
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 10 Dec 2019 10:09
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Aston Dee Bee would be my pick out of your 2 choices, but my choice just because his pups are a bit more fiery than either of your choices but he's still 34kg and should add size
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 10 Dec 2019 22:18
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thanx guys appreciate the input
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 11 Dec 2019 00:51
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The American and Irish Sires tend to put a bit of size and leg into their pups. A dog like Aussie Infared who raced at 35.5 kg looks good on paper and carries both American and Irish lines. JMO. Cheers
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 12 Dec 2019 08:16
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Matt James wrote:
Aston Dee Bee would be my pick out of your 2 choices, but my choice just because his pups are a bit more fiery than either of your choices but he's still 34kg and should add size
No David IMO Fernando Bale doesnt offer enough outcross.
Check the percentage of ancestor loss 6 generations. Need to lower that percentage.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Jan 2020 07:43
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CLICK HERE I hearing nothing but good reports regarding his pups at breakers etc David this sire got legs eleven. Good luck mate
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 03 Jan 2020 22:29
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thanx for that graham ..yeah i got a kmm bitch in whelp now ...so look forward to see what the oputcross might bring ...aussie infra ..is a big dog too need that as bitch only 25 kg
was also thinking about a melb cup winner and very speedy dog ... but not much out cross there
Matt this cross from 7-11th generation Temlee appears 105 times Temlee temlee and more temlee ? David Andos got legs galore just like his sire EGS
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 04 Jan 2020 04:12
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had a few people say the same thing ty for your thoughts
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 04 Jan 2020 04:24
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Graham Moscow wrote:
Matt this cross from 7-11th generation Temlee appears 105 times Temlee temlee and more temlee ? David Andos got legs galore just like his sire EGS
I rate Ando's Mac and think he'll go good at stud. But I'd be more worried about how much is going on up close with ando then what's going on generations back
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jan 2020 06:23
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We all know the first 4 generations have most influence. This dam line goes back to National Queen Hall of Fame. NQ sire Tangairn is the first Temlee blood to X this line. Since National Queen every sire thats crossed with this dam line is purely TEMLEE sire strains. Its a Temlee Tsunami Davids goal would be to reignite this line. Only way to reignite is vigor outcross, pouring more and more Temlee sire strains is a big blunder IMO The Temlee well is deep but many of those that keep drawing from the Temlee sires pool end up with Pannus, Testicle problem, undershot, so I would always worry / concerned what the origins of a damline is 5 plus generations back
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 04 Jan 2020 07:27
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I'm definitely not a breeding expert in any way and you're probably right Graham. What I more meant was if I was a prospective buyer of one of these pups I would be more scared off by what's going on up close with andos mac. Truth be told I probably wouldn't go that far back in the breeding to see the saturation of temlee
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jan 2020 08:18
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Matt James wrote:
I'm definitely not a breeding expert in any way and you're probably right Graham. What I more meant was if I was a prospective buyer of one of these pups I would be more scared off by what's going on up close with andos mac. Truth be told I probably wouldn't go that far back in the breeding to see the saturation of temlee
All good Matt I understand your point, thats David dilemma. I can assure you theres plenty of smarts out there that would pick up Temlee saturation. Ive spent much time in past decade following Temlee sire strains. IMO Temlee sire strains over a dam line more than five times straight is risky David get the Panadol mate. Yes like Matt I think Andos Mac will do well at stud, yes his got legs you desire BUT some Vigor is now crucial for this damline. Hindsight a wonderful thing, I reckon Pugsley Adams & Shes Adams should gone to non temlee strain sires. JMO.
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