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Collision Sire line and Sons
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 18 Feb 2020 01:59
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CLICK HERE He is still producing some awesome greyhounds even though he has been deceased for a number of years
He has had some great and very fast sons to go to stud.
I find it amazing that up to now he hasn't really produced a son that can carry his sireline through to new generations
Dyna Tron, Dyna Villa, Shakey Jakey, Goodesy have all produced some fantastic dogs along the way etc
Even High Earner who is arguably his most successful son at stud doesn't have a son that could be deemed suitable to carry on the sire line
If anything they all seem to excel as broodbitch sires and very prominent in the tail line of many fast dogs and newer sires, but there are at the moment no sons that can lay claim to his mantle
Time for Feral Franky and Good Odds Harada to step up...they will definitely get their chance from what I am hearing
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 18 Feb 2020 03:55
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I've got a few Goodesy straws in the Tank, some of his Daughters have produced some very fast pups !!!!
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 18 Feb 2020 04:53
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Jason Mckay had a smart mister twister pup in a performance trial the other day. theres not that much difference between solar pack and double twist lines
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 18 Feb 2020 05:17
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
CLICK HERE He is still producing some awesome greyhounds even though he has been deceased for a number of years
He has had some great and very fast sons to go to stud.
I find it amazing that up to now he hasn't really produced a son that can carry his sireline through to new generations
Dyna Tron, Dyna Villa, Shakey Jakey, Goodesy have all produced some fantastic dogs along the way etc
Even High Earner who is arguably his most successful son at stud doesn't have a son that could be deemed suitable to carry on the sire line
If anything they all seem to excel as broodbitch sires and very prominent in the tail line of many fast dogs and newer sires, but there are at the moment no sons that can lay claim to his mantle
Time for Feral Franky and Good Odds Harada to step up...they will definitely get their chance from what I am hearing
G'day Sandro,i was only recently thinking about the same re Collision,considering his pedigree.Do you think it could be that Collision inability to do this is in some strange way,due to maybe not having enough of the great sire Temlee & possibly Brother Fox,in his bloodlines (who both threw sire's who continued throw sucessful sire's )?? Like you said,Franky is in very very high demand from very prominent breeders here & abroad,& i do believe that he will carry on Collision's legacy..Franky does have those above mentioned qualities. Cheers mate.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 18 Feb 2020 05:27
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Hayden Gilders wrote:
Jason Mckay had a smart mister twister pup in a performance trial the other day. theres not that much difference between solar pack and double twist lines
Hi Hayden
Always surprised he never got many bitches.
As you say given his peidgree having virtually the the same damline as Feral Franky & Good Odds Harada
Interesting that the Hallinans were the first breeders to put a bitch to him and looks like they have been rewarded
The dam was a top stayer and bred on very solid staying lines
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 18 Feb 2020 08:37
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
CLICK HERE He is still producing some awesome greyhounds even though he has been deceased for a number of years
He has had some great and very fast sons to go to stud.
I find it amazing that up to now he hasn't really produced a son that can carry his sireline through to new generations
And it's always been that way Sandro regarding the Collision sire-line....stretching right back to the GREAT GREAT - PRETTY SHORT.
If you recall (back in the day) PRETTY SHORT & BROTHER FOX were the GO TO sires back in the 80's.
Both were grand-sires of the great TEMLEE, but the BROTHER FOX-SIRE-LINE seem to triumphant over PRETTY SHORT-SIRE-LINE in the long-run.
The BROTHER FOX-sire-line is still strongly represented thru BRETT LEE & sons...along with BARCIA BALE 8 a few others.
The PRETTY SHORT-sire-line is still sniffing around thru COLLISION..................& the BLACK SHIRAZ-sire-line is sort of thereabouts too.
But these sons of the dam SOLAR PAK, who is no slouch in the breeding barn may I say.....represents maybe the PRETTY SHORT/COLLISION-sirelines last change, & I think they'll both may make a good impact on the scene if the talk on the streets is correct.
Harada & Franky have both been at the top of the tree over the last year and deserve their share of Australia's best brood-bitches, which I'm sure they'll get.
What I'm looking forward to is seeing the results of those brood-bitches that BOTH utilize these sires.
Exciting times.
David Plumridge Australia (Verified User) Posts 414 Dogs 563 / Races 127 20 Feb 2020 00:06
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Nearly 17 years since Collision was born and he still has alot of whelpngs to come from 2018, 2019 & 2020. With limited numbers now he still features in GRV's Top 10 for metro winners & provincila tracks. I hope these 2 sons of Collision do make an impact in the future.
David Plumridge Australia (Verified User) Posts 414 Dogs 563 / Races 127 20 Feb 2020 00:16
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Sandro, Steve & Daryl - the more i look at FF & GOH's Damline & read your comments, their damline is different to other Collision Stud dogs - this damline has more of Brett Lee and Bombastic Shiraz whereas the others dont so that maybe the key.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 20 Feb 2020 02:45
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david plumridge wrote:
Sandro, Steve & Daryl - the more i look at FF & GOH's Damline & read your comments, their damline is different to other Collision Stud dogs - this damline has more of Brett Lee and Bombastic Shiraz whereas the others dont so that maybe the key.
G'day David,i agree with you & that's what i was eluding too,but also a large influence of Temlee,20%,along with Brother Fox's 17%,could very well be the key...& both Franky & Harada have that "secret key" to be very successful stud dog's for a very long time,that's just my humble opinion,cheers mate.
David Plumridge Australia (Verified User) Posts 414 Dogs 563 / Races 127 02 Mar 2020 10:01
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Collision bitches clicking with Fernando Bale so maybe if Collisions sons like Feral Franky & Good Odds Harada get Fernando Bale bitches that might get them some smart ones early in their stud career
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 02 Mar 2020 19:37
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david plumridge wrote:
Collision bitches clicking with Fernando Bale so maybe if Collisions sons like Feral Franky & Good Odds Harada get Fernando Bale bitches that might get them some smart ones early in their stud career
You would think that the gene pool is ripe for it, as you say, but it would also look to help the older Collision sons who have been on the fringe and haver also produced some very handy gallopers over the years e.g. Swift & Smooth Fancy, Dyna Tron, Goodsey etc
Tom Rees Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 1 / Races 0 03 Mar 2020 07:21
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Whiskey riot would be interesting if he gets his chance, opportunity for many bitches as he already has collision and Fernando in his line.
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