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Peter Stanford Australia (Verified User) Posts 123 Dogs 4 / Races 0 25 May 2020 06:01
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Hi people, my Broodie Pearl's Legacy came on season today. I am in a two minds what to do as far as what sire to use. I have purchased a Superior Panama straw BUT unsure if I want to use it yet. My other thoughts are Orsen Allen or Sennechie. Have any breeding guru got thoughts on any of these or something else. She has been to Barcia Bale who she produced Amy Cora and Blue Legacy. She has a Fernando Bale litter which is 6 months old.
Branko Lezaja Australia (Verified User) Posts 663 Dogs 2 / Races 0 25 May 2020 07:45
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Peter Stanford wrote:
Hi people, my Broodie Pearl's Legacy came on season today. I am in a two minds what to do as far as what sire to use. I have purchased a Superior Panama straw BUT unsure if I want to use it yet. My other thoughts are Orsen Allen or Sennechie. Have any breeding guru got thoughts on any of these or something else. She has been to Barcia Bale who she produced Amy Cora and Blue Legacy. She has a Fernando Bale litter which is 6 months old.
Hi Peter , A no brainer for your bitch & Group producing nick is Collision or a son of his like Hostile should give you the same result
Simon Milgate Australia (Verified User) Posts 2043 Dogs 23 / Races 0 25 May 2020 08:27
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CLICK HERE Pidarri Express looks good and has Collision as his dam sire.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 May 2020 08:33
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 25 May 2020 19:42
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This ones a no brainer for me its Banjo Boy all the way. Magambo the sire of your dam and in the x path of your dam when mated to Offspringer the dam of Banjo Boy produced offspring the caliber of echelon and sweet it is etc. When Banjo Boys sister Miss Uggboot was mated to Magambo it produced dogs like Smiley Mulwee and Shearers Ugg etc, not group dogs but certainly not useless. Have a look at Magambos top offspring and start from there. Cheers
Rick Nelson Australia (Verified User) Posts 85 Dogs 8 / Races 11 25 May 2020 20:32
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My Redeemer ticks a lot of boxes, 3x3 to Wheres Pedro in the best place( 3 down one up). Wheres Pedro and Pearls legacy same damline My Redeemer crossed to both Black Shiraz and Awesome Assassin which is needed in Pearls Legacy
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 25 May 2020 22:58
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michael worth wrote:
This ones a no brainer for me its Banjo Boy all the way. Magambo the sire of your dam and in the x path of your dam when mated to Offspringer the dam of Banjo Boy produced offspring the caliber of echelon and sweet it is etc. When Banjo Boys sister Miss Uggboot was mated to Magambo it produced dogs like Smiley Mulwee and Shearers Ugg etc, not group dogs but certainly not useless. Have a look at Magambos top offspring and start from there. Cheers
She's had a litter to him, has some handy ones there
Jimmy Corbo Australia (Verified User) Posts 435 Dogs 16 / Races 126 25 May 2020 23:13
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Hi Peter,
If Beast Unleashed is of interest, please send me a PM and we can discuss options. Looks very good on paper.
Hi people, my Broodie Pearl's Legacy came on season today. I am in a two minds what to do as far as what sire to use. I have purchased a Superior Panama straw BUT unsure if I want to use it yet. My other thoughts are Orsen Allen or Sennechie. Have any breeding guru got thoughts on any of these or something else. She has been to Barcia Bale who she produced Amy Cora and Blue Legacy. She has a Fernando Bale litter which is 6 months old.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 25 May 2020 23:25
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Peter Stanford wrote:
Hi people, my Broodie Pearl's Legacy came on season today. I am in a two minds what to do as far as what sire to use. I have purchased a Superior Panama straw BUT unsure if I want to use it yet. My other thoughts are Orsen Allen or Sennechie. Have any breeding guru got thoughts on any of these or something else. She has been to Barcia Bale who she produced Amy Cora and Blue Legacy. She has a Fernando Bale litter which is 6 months old.
Peter
Mad if you don't use Kinloch Brae
Jimmy Corbo Australia (Verified User) Posts 435 Dogs 16 / Races 126 26 May 2020 00:31
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An excerpt from the David Brasch article on the Beast:
Which brings us to other options for The Beast.
As mentioned above, Dont Knocka Him has done exceptionally well when linked to Bombastic Shiraz and also his son Bit Chili especially the latter. Again, the number of these bitches about are limitless. To prove this even further, Barcia Bales champion son Aston Dee Bee (G1 Melb Cup) is from a daughter of Bombastic Shiraz-Elite Oriental. Of course, Knocka Norris (damsire of The Beast) is a litter brother to Elite Oriental. Also, Barcia Bale has sired a number of great gallopers that carry a cross of the litter brothers Hallucinate and Wheres Pedro. This too can be a source of success for The Beast to mate bitches with up-close crosses of Wheres Pedro in their dam.
Jimmy Corbo wrote:
Hi Peter,
If Beast Unleashed is of interest, please send me a PM and we can discuss options. Looks very good on paper.
Hi people, my Broodie Pearl's Legacy came on season today. I am in a two minds what to do as far as what sire to use. I have purchased a Superior Panama straw BUT unsure if I want to use it yet. My other thoughts are Orsen Allen or Sennechie. Have any breeding guru got thoughts on any of these or something else. She has been to Barcia Bale who she produced Amy Cora and Blue Legacy. She has a Fernando Bale litter which is 6 months old.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 26 May 2020 00:48
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michael worth wrote:
This ones a no brainer for me its Banjo Boy all the way. Magambo the sire of your dam and in the x path of your dam when mated to Offspringer the dam of Banjo Boy produced offspring the caliber of echelon and sweet it is etc. When Banjo Boys sister Miss Uggboot was mated to Magambo it produced dogs like Smiley Mulwee and Shearers Ugg etc, not group dogs but certainly not useless. Have a look at Magambos top offspring and start from there. Cheers
Rather than looking at sires by Mogambo why not the dam's Mick?
Solar Pak threw a couple that are not slouches(LOL), so for my money I like this: -
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 May 2020 02:27
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Sorry Sandro, it wasnt mentioned in the original post so I didnt bother to see what other litters shes had. Cheers
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 May 2020 02:31
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Tony Digiorgio wrote:
michael worth wrote:
This ones a no brainer for me its Banjo Boy all the way. Magambo the sire of your dam and in the x path of your dam when mated to Offspringer the dam of Banjo Boy produced offspring the caliber of echelon and sweet it is etc. When Banjo Boys sister Miss Uggboot was mated to Magambo it produced dogs like Smiley Mulwee and Shearers Ugg etc, not group dogs but certainly not useless. Have a look at Magambos top offspring and start from there. Cheers
Rather than looking at sires by Mogambo why not the dam's Mick?
Solar Pak threw a couple that are not slouches(LOL), so for my money I like this: -
Hey mate, I wasnt looking at sires by Magambo but his top offspring which are out ofOffspringer the dam of Banjo Boy. Do like your test mating though with Magambo in the x path on both occasions. Cheers Cheers
Peter Stanford Australia (Verified User) Posts 123 Dogs 4 / Races 0 28 May 2020 01:03
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michael worth wrote:
Tony Digiorgio wrote:
michael worth wrote:
This ones a no brainer for me its Banjo Boy all the way. Magambo the sire of your dam and in the x path of your dam when mated to Offspringer the dam of Banjo Boy produced offspring the caliber of echelon and sweet it is etc. When Banjo Boys sister Miss Uggboot was mated to Magambo it produced dogs like Smiley Mulwee and Shearers Ugg etc, not group dogs but certainly not useless. Have a look at Magambos top offspring and start from there. Cheers
Rather than looking at sires by Mogambo why not the dam's Mick?
Solar Pak threw a couple that are not slouches(LOL), so for my money I like this: -
Hey mate, I wasnt looking at sires by Magambo but his top offspring which are out ofOffspringer the dam of Banjo Boy. Do like your test mating though with Magambo in the x path on both occasions. Cheers Cheers
Peter Stanford Australia (Verified User) Posts 123 Dogs 4 / Races 0 28 May 2020 01:08
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Hey guys, thanks for your input, I decided on Orson Allen. Hope for the best
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 28 May 2020 12:34
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Hi Peter,
From a Brett Lee perspective and at face value Sennechie wld be a better choice as his grandam Punk Rock Lass carries individuals that cover Brett Lee's pedigree at a very high 88% CLICK HERE within 5 generations and his sires dam Chloe Allen does the same within 6 gens from memory.
Ricks suggestion does similar. There cld be other sires too that may do this that shld be considered.
Seeing Brett Lee combining with this damline threw superstar race/stud dogs....its worth seriously considering.
Again this is from a Brett Lee perspective only. Orson may do this from another niche angle but I wld have thought linebreeding Brett Lee thru different individuals at a very high percentage was a no brainer in this case with this damline. My 2cents worth. Cheers.
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