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Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 04 Aug 2020 08:48
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Just an observation.
I've been out of the game for a while now. In my absence, have the incredibly prolific Wheeler dam lines (Which were rightly or wrongly considered Stud Dog poison) swung around and become a line of sires rather than a maternal gold mine?
I don't see the Bale/Dyna dominance of City and Group racing there was 5-10 years ago.
Never thought I'd see Wheeler sires 1, 2, 3 on the top sires list.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 04 Aug 2020 09:07
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Just an observation.
I've been out of the game for a while now. In my absence, have the incredibly prolific Wheeler dam lines (Which were rightly or wrongly considered Stud Dog poison) swung around and become a line of sires rather than a maternal gold mine?
I don't see the Bale/Dyna dominance of City and Group racing there was 5-10 years ago.
Never thought I'd see Wheeler sires 1, 2, 3 on the top sires list.
where you been ?
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 04 Aug 2020 09:54
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A lot of perceptions and reality has changed since last you were on here Dixie
PS Good to have you back
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 04 Aug 2020 10:29
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Wayne will be popping up soon...
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 04 Aug 2020 11:34
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Good to see you back, Dixie.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 04 Aug 2020 11:47
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"OH WHAT A FEELING"
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 04 Aug 2020 18:42
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Thanks guys. Got out of the industry for a while. Two reasons, Bekim Bale and Djays Octane. What the hell was I thinking? It confirmed my suspicions that I have no idea when it comes to breeding and selecting sires.
Anyway back to the topic. What happened to Paul Wheeler's Coursing Sire experiment?
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2020 19:39
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No good Dixie......& you still owe me a fed lol.
Bill Warner Australia (Verified User) Posts 320 Dogs 20 / Races 384 04 Aug 2020 20:53
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I couldn't agree more Dixie. What were you thinking?????
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 05 Aug 2020 04:43
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welcome back Dicksy
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 05 Aug 2020 05:16
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Good miss him. Will Wayne be back.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1342 Dogs 154 / Races 139 05 Aug 2020 05:38
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You should have kept a Bekim Bale brood...hes proving a decent dam sire!
To My Bro Fabio, a Bekim Bale brood produces 64% city winners to pups born and to Fernando Bale, a Bekim Bale brood produces 44% city winners to pups born.
When you compare the best sire Fernando Bale has a 20% city winners to pups born to any random blood. The above stats are enormous!
Look at the dam of freakishly fast Embye...24 starts 2 wins at Ippy in moderate time! Along with a few other moderately performed Bekim Bale broods to have produced the goods next gen!
You were halfway to maybe breeding stars with Bekim Bale...
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 24 May 2021 05:59
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Thanks guys. Got out of the industry for a while. Two reasons, Bekim Bale and Djays Octane. What the hell was I thinking? It confirmed my suspicions that I have no idea when it comes to breeding and selecting sires.
Anyway back to the topic. What happened to Paul Wheeler's Coursing Sire experiment?
Well that stint back in the Greyhound game didn't last long. Lol
Bailing out again for the same reason as the first time, bloody non chasers and unproven sires.
See you dog bums again in another 5 or 6 years, when in another moment of madness I decide to hsve another go. Note to self, reread this post if you are stupid enough to consider getting back into the dogs.
Best wishes everyone.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 24 May 2021 06:14
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Dont you have a Fernando pup that you bought out of She's Grand that is only about 10m old?
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 25 May 2021 07:04
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
Thanks guys. Got out of the industry for a while. Two reasons, Bekim Bale and Djays Octane. What the hell was I thinking? It confirmed my suspicions that I have no idea when it comes to breeding and selecting sires.
Anyway back to the topic. What happened to Paul Wheeler's Coursing Sire experiment?
Well that stint back in the Greyhound game didn't last long. Lol
Bailing out again for the same reason as the first time, bloody non chasers and unproven sires.
See you dog bums again in another 5 or 6 years, when in another moment of madness I decide to hsve another go. Note to self, reread this post if you are stupid enough to consider getting back into the dogs.
Best wishes everyone.
a small breeder using an uproven sire is complete MADNESS i know i used to do it ,, by listening to idiots and taking their advise ,
proper rearing can sometimes help the chase issue , if the work is put into it
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5957 Dogs 8 / Races 0 25 May 2021 07:18
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Michael Barry wrote:
a small breeder using an uproven sire is complete MADNESS i know i used to do it ,, by listening to idiots and taking their advise ,
Michael if you think that way and no one bred with unproven sires, their wldn't be a pup born. lol.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 25 May 2021 07:31
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Michael Barry wrote:
a small breeder using an uproven sire is complete MADNESS i know i used to do it ,, by listening to idiots and taking their advise ,
Michael if you think that way and no one bred with unproven sires, their wldn't be a pup born. lol.
Ryan,
larger breeders can absorb the odd failed litter , let them take the risk ,
there is enough risk without adding unproven sires , just my opinion
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 May 2021 07:35
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Ive used unproven Sire on a Maiden Brood ... worked for me. Your obviously not researching enough not going deep: Blackstone Gene x Wee Paris 😎
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 25 May 2021 07:46
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Steven John Lloyd wrote:
Ive used unproven Sire on a Maiden Brood ... worked for me. Your obviously not researching enough not going deep: Blackstone Gene x Wee Paris 😎
so you research the potential mating from a sire that's never produced a litter, interesting ?
and you research the same from the dam who has never had a litter either , ?
i didn't say it dosent work , i said its MADNESS and not for me
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 May 2021 07:59
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Thats fair enough Michael & I respect that it isnt everyones favourite pathway, for me when your dealing with finding the Pathway that you believe in & have researched you got to back yourself.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
