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Do you have questions about breeding theories?
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Jack Zappala
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Zipping Garth x Blue Tongue Blue
My pick



Graham Moscow
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02 Sep 2020 03:49


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jack zappala wrote:

Zipping Garth x Blue Tongue Blue
My pick

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Michael Worth
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I like the Cutting Edge x Spin That Wheel litter. The WP , Hallucinate connection is there. The double of HB Commander. Ginger being represented by half brothers BS and SR. The damline comes from the very potent speed line of New Tears , Proper Tears. The same line that produced BMO , Sancho etc. I think this litter will have plenty of chase, speed but also strength from the American influences. Royal Assassin appears in the first five generations and was known for throwing hard chasers. JMO. Cheers


Michael Worth
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Can you have two goes as I also really Like the Zambora Brockie x Crymelon Holly litter also. Grab something that’s already worked, spin it one eighty and put it back together. Why Not. Add in two great bottom lines that produced Lochinvar Jet and Dancing Habit and I think this litter may have a big chance also. Time will tell. JMO. Cheers 🍻


Paul Dicks
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03 Sep 2020 11:55


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I can not tell a lie. I'm a bit disappointed the two self proclaimed great breeding gurus haven't ventured a guess yet. I'm sure with tbeir tremendous insight and wisdom they'll find something. But then again they don't alqays back up their rhetoric with solid anx tangible results.


Tony Digiorgio
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03 Sep 2020 21:03


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That was the purpose of this whole topic, wasn't it Paul :-)

Spotted it a mile off when I made my first comment....


Darren Leeson
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Of course it was lol this is the only time I’m going to play the game.

11/2/2015 8.59pm

I contacted Darren Puleio on Facebook messenger. Offering to buy the bitch ‘Nicki Fields’. With interest in her as a Broodbitch.

On the 11/2/2015 Nicki Fields race record stood at no city wins 18 starts 5-3-3...Sandown Sunday 30.00(m), Cranb 30.67, Sale 37.44, Ball 37.87, War 39.40, Geel 39.05

The substantial 5 figure offer wasn’t enough for the owner to sell. However, a snippet of our conversation below.

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Hi Darren,

Any interest in selling your greyhound Nicki Fields...if so how much would you consider?

Cheers,
Darren

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Hi Darren,

Thanks for the offer but that's not enough to entice me. As I said I intend on breeding with her myself when she finishes racing.

I bred her and her mother and she's also named after my wife. Any suggestions on who to go too when she is ready?

Cheers Darren

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Fair enough Darren...******* would be my limit on her. plenty of good matches for her...the likes of Barcia Bale. The exciting part to her is veing devoid of Brett Lee and only a distant line of Malawi's Prince opens her up to a wide range of sires.

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Thanks Darren

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Barcia Bale x Nicki Fields - Hooked On Scotch...

N.B Barcia Bale only had his first crop racing at the time and Fernando Bale was still racing throughout 2015!

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I have my own litter about to whelp in a day or 2...in the recent mating section on Data.

Fabregas x Pennybacker

The reasoning is well documented by me in another topic on Data such as the ‘nick’ between Fabregas and Big Daddy Cool.

Something I didn’t reveal though, was the origin of the Fabregas/Big Daddy Cool ‘nick’ - Peggy May (Bearability/Big Daddy Cool).

You only need look at the breeding of Fab Fit and repeat mating Elegant Eleanor to see Bearability at play in Fabregas with his Kissy Bear dam line.

However, I’ve used Fabregas before over Pennybacker’s mother for the same above reasons...named Rocastle.

Rocastle (1 pup litter) whelped Sept 2017

Broke in Goldenview Greyhound Complex in 20.00 (run home 12.57). N.B my bitch Frieda Las Vegas (20.15). Breaker comment “Very impressed with this boy, especially his strength.” Casey Dargusch (Golden View)

With pre-trainer Dave Knocker trialed 22.56 Warragul after the last at 16 months (FFA on night went 22.65 BON) rec Aston Bolero 22.07. After first slip around Sandown, Dave Knockers comment “Gee whiz how good are you”

Being trained by Group winning trainer Rob Tyler.

Rob Tyler comment “this dog is a freak! It’s scary how fast this dog is...nothing I have in the kennel can go with this dog behind the drag up my straight! My good dogs Zipping Brady (Richmond Riches Maiden winner 30.65), Modus Operandi (G3 Xmas Gift, Wentworth Park 29.85) go 19.25 and 19.30 at best up my straight..nothing has ever broken 19. Rocastle breaks 19 every single time (18.90)

Trialed Richmond 330m 18.50, 18.62 (rec Caviar Quality18.28).

Rocastle first slip at Wentworth Park 15.06 (Zipping Truvy 15.00, Get It Gizmo 15.11)

Tragically Rocastle went amiss and never raced!

Therefore, it’s only natural for me to put Rocastle’s 1/2 sister Pennybacker to Fabregas! It’s worked plenty of times!

Fabregas = 3/4 Benarkin/Powerhouse (Bearability/Sobbing Sal)
Paper Jet = 3/4 True To Do (Wary Suspect / Worth Doing)
Special Cyndie = 3/4 Cyndies Magic
Prankster = 3/4 Bit Chili
Gable Drum = 3/4 One Tree Hill
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Graham Moscow
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daryl barrett wrote:

G'day Paul,i quite liked the Moreira x Eminence litter even though it is her first lot of pups.
She is from a nice producing / racing damline & her grand dam being a very handy staying bitch.
I love the Collision cross & 2 x 2 cross that Malawis Prince brings into play,also the Light Of Fire influence.
Sorry mate,i can't put the mating up,but well worth a look.
Cheers mate.

Ryan,where are you mate...oh,..still counting that folding stuff from yesterday,lol.
Paul Dicks wrote:

We are all breeding geniuses in hindsight.

I'd like to put out a challenge. There are 30 litters for sale here on Greyhound Data. Pick one litter and tell us why you think they will be champions. It can be XY theories, city class dam line theories, proven sire to proven dam theories or what ever floats your boat theories.

We can revisit the thread in 3 or 4 years to see just who got it right and what theory they chose. It will be like the longest dog race in history, but interesting none the less.

There are a couple of of self proclaimed gurus, I'd absolutely love to hear from.

What do you think?

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Bryon Williams
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04 Sep 2020 09:59


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Zipping Garth X Blue Tongue Blue.
Well balanced across the breeding bitch comes from a strong litter that through multiple track record holders, Zipping Garth was a freak taken down in his prime before we got to see the best of him.
Could be really cocky and pick the black bitch in the the litter to be the star of the litter.
Either way, fun post to watch and see how all the picks eventuate.


Edward (Ted) Howard
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04 Sep 2020 11:38


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Im no breeding guru but I like the Whiskey Riot- Winsome Sandy litter as I love the raz to sobbing sal in the bitch and going to a top class dog although unproven think it may click.



Craig Cooper
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i like the zipping garth?blue tongue blue mating
but very expensive for an unproven sire and dam IMO


Paul Dicks
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Tony Digiorgio wrote:

That was the purpose of this whole topic, wasn't it Paul :-)

Spotted it a mile off when I made my first comment....

Of course it was Tony, I'm about as subtle as a sledge hammer. But having said that, it could develop into an interesting thread in the long term.

Good to see one of the targets have a stab. To his credit, he has bred some quality pups over the years and is willing to put his money where his mouth is.

The other fella, is living on the glory of a 5th grader he jagged last millennium and has done naught since.



Graham Moscow
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Edward (Ted) Howard wrote:

Im no breeding guru but I like the Whiskey Riot- Winsome Sandy litter as I love the raz to sobbing sal in the bitch and going to a top class dog although unproven think it may click.

CLICK HERE


Doug Taylor
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Dam had good ability and strength
Sire throws chase
A heap of clever crosses built into this pedigree along the lines of how I breed

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