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Perfect Marshall v Fernando Balepage  1 2 3 


Darren Leeson
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03 Oct 2020 23:11


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Both, US sired (carrying same key ingredients) over broods carrying Primo Uno, Awesome Assassin, Head Honcho and same distant Irish lines!

ALL the key ingredients behind the success of Fernando Bale at stud!

Perfect Marshall could be a great alternative to Fernando Bale - whos $6600-8800 and near impossible to get into....


Matt Griffiths
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04 Oct 2020 02:51


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Perfect Marshall was a pretty serious dog, but is he registered at stud?


Paul Dicks
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04 Oct 2020 03:05


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I recall you put the kiss of death on sires Silver Saul and Messi in the past didn't you Darren? Lol



Darren Leeson
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04 Oct 2020 03:37


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They were never given a proper shot at stud. Hardly gave them any kind of kiss of death!!

Matt, not yet, hes still racing! But, agree...checkout his last win at The Meadows at nearly 4 years of age! They were Group class dogs in front and the time was still 30.03! Was some run...

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Darren Leeson
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04 Oct 2020 07:16


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Ive mentioned elsewhere that Fernando Bale, Black Magic Opal and Fabregas all carry Awesome Assassin and Head Honcho in their dams...just like Perfect Marshall and all 3 have produced Group 1 class dogs to bitches carrying Big Daddy Cool.

Fernando Bale - Tommy Shelby, Slingshot Hammer

Black Magic Opal - True Detective (Little Grey)

Fabregas - No Donuts, Pindari Express (Brooks Doll), Shes Gifted

Really interesting is the dams of True Detective and Pindari Express have also both clicked to El Grand Senor producing El Magnifico (Little Grey) and Andos Mac (Brooks Doll)

Perfect Marshall crossed with bitches carrying Big Daddy Cool could be huge...



Darren Leeson
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04 Oct 2020 09:21


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Away from comparing Fernando Bale top offspring dams to Perfect Marshall. Another great angle...

La Grand Logie shows the potential of Wheres Pedro into El Grand Senor - CLICK HERE

Miss Gingin confirms it - CLICK HERE

Irish star Sparta Maestro shows the cross between Wheres Pedro brother Crash and Greenpark Fox. Perfect Marshall carries the above Wheres Pedro (Hallucinate) angle through El Grand Senor + the Sparta Maestro link as well...as Perfect Marshall carries Greenpark Fox and his dam Perfect Tess is also successfully bred on the Sparta Maestro cross!!

CLICK HERE / CLICK HERE

Wheres Pedro and Hallucinate could be huge with Perfect Marshall...



Paul Dicks
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04 Oct 2020 09:46


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I reckon Silver Saul and Messi will have more litters than Perfect Marshall could ever hope to have.



Darren Leeson
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04 Oct 2020 10:49


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Some nice looking match ups - EXTERNAL LINK

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Heres another angle - Perfect Marshall combines Greenpark Fox and the Droopys First dam line. Its proven a great cross with Droopys Vieri - EXTERNAL LINK

Droopys Vieri is in Australia as well - EXTERNAL LINK


Michael Barry
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06 Oct 2020 00:40


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Darren Leeson wrote:

Some nice looking match ups - EXTERNAL LINK

EXTERNAL LINK / EXTERNAL LINK

Heres another angle - Perfect Marshall combines Greenpark Fox and the Droopys First dam line. Its proven a great cross with Droopys Vieri - EXTERNAL LINK

Droopys Vieri is in Australia as well - EXTERNAL LINK


perfect Marshall stud fee $1100 i see


Paul Dicks
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06 Oct 2020 01:26


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Darren Leeson wrote:

Some nice looking match ups - EXTERNAL LINK

EXTERNAL LINK / EXTERNAL LINK

Heres another angle - Perfect Marshall combines Greenpark Fox and the Droopys First dam line. Its proven a great cross with Droopys Vieri - EXTERNAL LINK

Droopys Vieri is in Australia as well - EXTERNAL LINK

Interesting match ups, but why would you put a sire to a dam that was slower and lesser performed? Surely it's about upgrading to pups not slowing it down.



Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 01:38


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Where did you see that Mick?

If there was ever a new sire on the block with a thoroughly proven pedigree at stud its definitely Perfect Marshall...Fernando Bale, Black Magic Opal and Fabregas all prove Perfect Marshalls worth at stud!!!

What a great alternative opportunity at only $1100, to get what Fernando Bale, Black Magic Opal and Fabregas offer pedigree-wise!

Plus hes 32.5kg to Fernando Bales 29.5kg. No worries about small pups with Perfect Marshall...


Sandro Bechini
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06 Oct 2020 01:40


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Question is: Are you putting a bitch to him?



Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 01:42


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Sandro, you know me, Ill use any sire that I feel suits my bitch. Remember, Im going to use West On Augie!




Sandro Bechini
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06 Oct 2020 01:44


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Darren Leeson wrote:

Both, US sired (carrying same key ingredients) over broods carrying Primo Uno, Awesome Assassin, Head Honcho and same distant Irish lines!

ALL the key ingredients behind the success of Fernando Bale at stud!

Perfect Marshall could be a great alternative to Fernando Bale - whos $6600-8800 and near impossible to get into....

Worm Burner has all 3 of those sires in his damline as well

He only stands for $1250 and well proven



Sandro Bechini
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06 Oct 2020 01:45


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Darren Leeson wrote:

Sandro, you know me, Ill use any sire that I feel suits my bitch. Remember, Im going to use West On Augie!

Then why are you pushing this dog so hard then?

He's a nice dog but there are another hundred like him, nothing really unique



Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 01:47


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Worm Burner as I mentioned in the other topic isnt as close to Fernando Bale as Perfect Marshall. But, no arguments...hes had a nice start to his stud career as well.

The more sires used the better in my book...much healthier for the breed!

Simple, Im a fan of the dog and his pedigree. And well have to agree to disagree, if you think there are heaps of them around...


Sandro Bechini
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Darren Leeson wrote:

Worm Burner as I mentioned in the other topic isnt as close to Fernando Bale as Perfect Marshall. But, no arguments...hes had a nice start to his stud career as well.

The more sires used the better in my book...much healthier for the breed!

I don't disagree with you there...but why such a big push for him

Surely with all the broodbitches you have available right now you can find one to justify using him



Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 01:50


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We keep editing our posts lol. Simple, Im a fan of the dog and his pedigree. Anyone that reads my postings, know Im all about pedigree!

And Id happily use Perfect Marshall, if and when I have a brood, that I feel suits him perfectly.


Sandro Bechini
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Darren Leeson wrote:

Worm Burner as I mentioned in the other topic isnt as close to Fernando Bale as Perfect Marshall. But, no arguments...hes had a nice start to his stud career as well.

The more sires used the better in my book...much healthier for the breed!

Simple, Im a fan of the dog and his pedigree. And well have to agree to disagree, if you think there are heaps of them around...

Why doesn't a dog like Dyna Chancer get a push?

He broke 30 seconds in every one of his Meadows wins and raced in at least 6 Group 1 finals , he won a Speed Star.

In fact I would say he was a superior dog but no one gives him a push

He has had 1 litter

Another one would be Hasten Slowly, a Group 1 Brisbane Cup winner and finalist in another 5 Group 1's

He has an international pedigree made up of key USA & Irish breedshapers and hais from Head Honcho's damline

He has had a measly 4 litters

If you want me to go on I can because there are plenty out there

There are literally 100's that won;t get a go




Darren Leeson
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06 Oct 2020 02:08


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Then start a topic for them and push them. As plenty of others do!

The reason Ive mentioned Perfect Marshall, is because of his very much likeness in pedigree to Fernando Bale...and then shares identically the same pattern of Black Magic Opal and Fabregas carrying Awesome Assassin and Head Honcho.

Both Perfect Marshall and Fernando Bale are US sire (carrying same key ingredients) over a brood carrying Primo Uno, Awesome Assassin, Head Honcho and same distant Irish lines! ALL the key ingredients behind the success of Fernando Bale at stud!

Sennachie and Farmer Beach show the correlation between Kelsos Fusileer and Kinloch Brae. To show just how close Perfect Marshall and Fernando Bale are in pedigree.

And as the likes of Little Denver (Worth Doing), Frosty Friday (Optic Haze) - Worth Doing (Brother Fox), Farmer Wilson (Brother Fox), Chicago Blue (Reifenhauser), Rapid Journey (Amerigo Magic), Bobs One (Ultimate Wish) show you can get Group class from right and left fields sharing the same pedigree!

Who here would have rated Optic Haze, Reifenhauser, Amerigo Magic as a sire..........



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