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Thoughts on further outcrossing in Australia

Jakota Rohde
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Interested to get peoples thoughts on breeding in Australia.

Obviously there are becoming more and more winners with imported blood, winning bigger and better races in Australia.
It is becoming harder and harder to get hold of great bloodlines, as most people hold onto anything that could be great.

Now we were lucky enough to purchase a pup, Superior Panama X Dasha (mum of get it gizmo, from one of the greatest brood lines in Australia, the Outlandish line).
Now obviously the pup has half American blood, as Panama is possibly proving to be one of Americas great sires with limited opportunity up until recently.

Im excited for the future of our bitch. What an awesome temperament, conformation, and just a well put together bitch she is. Already am looking for what works for down the line.

This is where I came across a dilemma. I know, it isnt for a few years before we have to worry about it, however we are on the front foot and have already purchased a magical bale straw, storing it for the future. Could possibly be the best bred Irish dog in the history of all dogs, if not the world.

So my question is, will it be taking a step backwards, putting a bitch with australia bloodlines, through go wild teddy, outlandish, collison, and then American bloodlines in Kc and All, HBs commander, TNT Star Wars, to a dog from Ireland, with Kiowa sweet Trey as his grand sire, and the spectacular Nifty Nahm broodline, (premier fantasys mum) with a hint of Brett Lee and head honcho?

Because if this was the case, it would mean some of Australias great sires (including Fernando bale, Kinloch Brae, Fabregas and new sires in the likes of Pindari express and Hard style rico) we would again be providing more and more American/Irish blood into Australian racing.

So are we going to fall behind the 8 ball, as Im sure its been done plenty of times, however so many people tell you, you need to come back into the Australian bloodlines... now how true is that??

Ill put a testmating of our future breeding, and tell me what you think?


Jakota Rohde
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Paul Dicks
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Great to see someone so passionate about the greyhounds.

I'm certainly no expert, but both her pedigree and your prospective sire selection look great.

It's very much a patience game from here, it can be a real roller coaster ride. I suggest you really celebrate the good times and ride out the tough ones. It can be a very rewarding and exciting experience. Good luck and best wishes.



Nathan Bendeich
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Hi jakota

Congratulations on your purchase and best of luck in the future with her

Like stated above , great to see raw enthusiasm,hope and a willingness to research for future ventures

Its all opinions as you stated yourself , and no one has the perfect or correct answer
They are all past experiences that either worked for some or didnt for others hence their answer , some success and some failures

They have nothing to do with you or your bitch

There is NO right or WRONG

What I will offer in advice or what I have experienced in the process you are about to endure lol ! Is

Enjoy each stage for what it is , each stage lasts a certain period only
Be patient and enjoy her for what she is

Get to know your bitch regardless if she is reared not by yourself
She will prosper in more ways then one if you do

You will also more importantly know what sire is suitable for her when she comes of age in things such as temperament, and or what she lacks over all

Buying straws at 3 months of age , whilst fun and exciting is only half the picture
Going on blood lines only whilst isnt wrong , but I wouldnt say its ideal or great breeding to someone whos willing to put a bit of thought and effort to the best mating possible

Just from a quick look , your dam line is good , but I do know of some non chasers in your dams dam

We all have them , Im not knocking it
Im being honest and making you aware of what could be important in picking a certain sire
There are sires that throw talent .... and sires that throw hard chase

Get to know your sires and what traits they are throwing race wise on the track
When you know what you are looking for in a sire to match or upgrade your girls lackings , you will spot it a mile away in his runners

With so many sires coming out every 1/4 ...... I would stop buying straws , keep your hard earned in your pocket and spend time on live research , not frozen research

Good luck , keep chatting , you never know what anyone has to offer from a different prospective

Ps. International blood has proven itself to be as vital and great as any , Im a massive fan of it , just be careful though on over use and underestimating the hard honest chase thats available in your own backyard

One of the better breeders once told me , out of US ,Aust and Irish/UK sires
The one to be more cautious about would be the latter

If you would like to compare the US last crop to the Irish/UK
Bella infrared ,Kc and all , Kinloch brae (he is American ) SH avatar
All successful imop
Djays octane , superior product ......failures

In comparison Irish/UK
Skywalker puma , Taylors sky , paradise Madison ,makeshift ..... All have failed dismally

It will take a very great Irish/UK racer to succeed in Aust again

Cheers

Note . I have never bred or contested a GRP race , but I have tried as hard as the next bloke

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