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ALICE DOOLEY
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 29 Apr 2022 21:32
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Back in 2011 I wrote an article about that great broodbitch ALICE DOOLEY. Four of the eight finalist in the Million Dollar Chase are from this direct female family. Here is the article on Alice Dooley.
BOB Bert gets a bit indignant these days when it comes to greyhounds. Bob thinks nothing of driving from his Tweed Heads home to the Ettrick property of Sue and Darryl Schafer to keep the place spick and span. Bob is an unassuming guy. He does the mowing and at the Schafers there is plenty to do, 40 acres of it. On any visit to Sue and Darryls greyhound rearing and training complex, youd almost miss Bob if he didnt stop to say hello, which he makes sure he does. While the Schafers have been turning out stars on their Ettrick property for a few years now, it is Bob who has reached the ultimate heights. Bob, you see, bred and raced wonder broodbitch Alice Dooley (Barrantes-Impish Dancer) the dam of Hall of Famer Paua To Burn. This is also the damline of such stars as Bit Chili, Prankster, Digital Magic, Danny Phantom, Did I Entertain and the New Zealand star Tricky Shelley. When Bob was young, one of his mates was a guy called Owen Makin, now a leading greyhound man. We lived at Bundeena south of Cronulla, said Bob. Owen left as a young bloke to move to west of Nowra. We saw each other on and off over the years. Their paths would cross in the early 1990s. Owen was in Queensland to race a dog in the Gold Coast Cup series. Bob by that time was living in Tweed Heads with his partner Toni Bovis. Theyd had a greyhound called Steal Home which had won a race but broke a hock. Owen sent up a bitch for us to race. Her name was Impish Dancer and we won with her at Tweed and Lismore. Owen had won a race at Bulli with her, said Bob. She was a sister to the dog he had brought up for the Gold Coast Cup. When Impish Dancer came on season, Bob decided hed mate her. Dennis Robinson had just retired Barrantes, said Bob. So we put Impish Dancer to him. Barrantes had been a brilliant race dog winning 11 and being placed four times in 22 starts. He could run sensational times and eventually would be sold to go to stud in the US. He sired a few handy dogs in the US and one of his daughters produced AA Grade Wheeling Downs performer Night Bandit. From that litter came an outstanding race bitch called Shelley Ball, the winner of 15 races and a Nowra track record breaker, Watch Me Know and Bar Dancer all better than handy performers. Bob and Toni had shifted south by this time, basing themselves at Nowra. We broke the pups in at Mick Abbotts and all won first up at Moss Vale. The following week we took them to Goulburn and three of them won, said Bob. We kept racing them and winning with them. It was easy to race at Appin on the Saturday and then Bulli on the Wednesday night. There was no penalty for the Appin win and it kept them fit for the Bulli race. Alice Dooley, according to Bob, was spirited to say the least. Shed run through a brick wall, he said. She was very quick out and won quite a few races. She wasnt as good as Shelley Ball who was the heady one of the litter. But Alice Dooley was the quickest. Bob sent Alice Dooley to his mate, Tweed copper Mark Johnston, who trained her for a while only for the bitch to injure a hip support which halted her career. Mark remembers her well. Toni was out walking a dog one morning and we crossed paths, said Mark. She and Robert asked about taking Alice Dooley, rang just out of the blue. Mark had Alice Dooley for a few months and won a couple at the Tweed including one in 23.87 and another over 520m in 29.73. She was not as good as her sister Shelley Bell, but you wouldnt find a more beautiful bitch than Alice Dooley. I remember saying to Toni you should breed with this bitch. Mark also remembers Alice Dooley had a trait of playing up badly in the boxes, she was that keen. She was a rocket, Mark said of Alice Dooleys racetrack ability. But it still has got to surprise you that she could produce one as good as Paua To Burn. At this time Bob had come back to the Tweed. He kept Shelley Ball and had four litters with her, few of them much good. Alice Dooley went to Steve Whyte on a pup deal with Bob and Toni. In all, Alice Dooley raced 64 times for 10 wins, 10 seconds and eight thirds. Her wins were at Moss Vale (18.08, 17.85), Bulli (25.46, 27.33), Tweed Heads (30.01, 29.73, 23.87 FFA), Nowra (31.05), Dapto (30.29) and Appin (15.91). She raced from September 9, 1995 to June 3, 1997. The rest is history that Steve put her to Awesome Assassin and along came Paua To Burn winner of the Golden Easter Egg, the Sapphire Crown twice, the Laurels, The Temlee and a spot in the Australian greyhound Hall of Fame. Bob raced Elle Dooley (Addicts Actor) winner of 13 races including a couple over 520m and 600m at Albion Park.
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 30 Apr 2022 01:27
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It's great to see Coast model make it through for clay Mullins
Back in 2011 I wrote an article about that great broodbitch ALICE DOOLEY. Four of the eight finalist in the Million Dollar Chase are from this direct female family. Here is the article on Alice Dooley.
BOB Bert gets a bit indignant these days when it comes to greyhounds. Bob thinks nothing of driving from his Tweed Heads home to the Ettrick property of Sue and Darryl Schafer to keep the place spick and span. Bob is an unassuming guy. He does the mowing and at the Schafers there is plenty to do, 40 acres of it. On any visit to Sue and Darryls greyhound rearing and training complex, youd almost miss Bob if he didnt stop to say hello, which he makes sure he does. While the Schafers have been turning out stars on their Ettrick property for a few years now, it is Bob who has reached the ultimate heights. Bob, you see, bred and raced wonder broodbitch Alice Dooley (Barrantes-Impish Dancer) the dam of Hall of Famer Paua To Burn. This is also the damline of such stars as Bit Chili, Prankster, Digital Magic, Danny Phantom, Did I Entertain and the New Zealand star Tricky Shelley. When Bob was young, one of his mates was a guy called Owen Makin, now a leading greyhound man. We lived at Bundeena south of Cronulla, said Bob. Owen left as a young bloke to move to west of Nowra. We saw each other on and off over the years. Their paths would cross in the early 1990s. Owen was in Queensland to race a dog in the Gold Coast Cup series. Bob by that time was living in Tweed Heads with his partner Toni Bovis. Theyd had a greyhound called Steal Home which had won a race but broke a hock. Owen sent up a bitch for us to race. Her name was Impish Dancer and we won with her at Tweed and Lismore. Owen had won a race at Bulli with her, said Bob. She was a sister to the dog he had brought up for the Gold Coast Cup. When Impish Dancer came on season, Bob decided hed mate her. Dennis Robinson had just retired Barrantes, said Bob. So we put Impish Dancer to him. Barrantes had been a brilliant race dog winning 11 and being placed four times in 22 starts. He could run sensational times and eventually would be sold to go to stud in the US. He sired a few handy dogs in the US and one of his daughters produced AA Grade Wheeling Downs performer Night Bandit. From that litter came an outstanding race bitch called Shelley Ball, the winner of 15 races and a Nowra track record breaker, Watch Me Know and Bar Dancer all better than handy performers. Bob and Toni had shifted south by this time, basing themselves at Nowra. We broke the pups in at Mick Abbotts and all won first up at Moss Vale. The following week we took them to Goulburn and three of them won, said Bob. We kept racing them and winning with them. It was easy to race at Appin on the Saturday and then Bulli on the Wednesday night. There was no penalty for the Appin win and it kept them fit for the Bulli race. Alice Dooley, according to Bob, was spirited to say the least. Shed run through a brick wall, he said. She was very quick out and won quite a few races. She wasnt as good as Shelley Ball who was the heady one of the litter. But Alice Dooley was the quickest. Bob sent Alice Dooley to his mate, Tweed copper Mark Johnston, who trained her for a while only for the bitch to injure a hip support which halted her career. Mark remembers her well. Toni was out walking a dog one morning and we crossed paths, said Mark. She and Robert asked about taking Alice Dooley, rang just out of the blue. Mark had Alice Dooley for a few months and won a couple at the Tweed including one in 23.87 and another over 520m in 29.73. She was not as good as her sister Shelley Bell, but you wouldnt find a more beautiful bitch than Alice Dooley. I remember saying to Toni you should breed with this bitch. Mark also remembers Alice Dooley had a trait of playing up badly in the boxes, she was that keen. She was a rocket, Mark said of Alice Dooleys racetrack ability. But it still has got to surprise you that she could produce one as good as Paua To Burn. At this time Bob had come back to the Tweed. He kept Shelley Ball and had four litters with her, few of them much good. Alice Dooley went to Steve Whyte on a pup deal with Bob and Toni. In all, Alice Dooley raced 64 times for 10 wins, 10 seconds and eight thirds. Her wins were at Moss Vale (18.08, 17.85), Bulli (25.46, 27.33), Tweed Heads (30.01, 29.73, 23.87 FFA), Nowra (31.05), Dapto (30.29) and Appin (15.91). She raced from September 9, 1995 to June 3, 1997. The rest is history that Steve put her to Awesome Assassin and along came Paua To Burn winner of the Golden Easter Egg, the Sapphire Crown twice, the Laurels, The Temlee and a spot in the Australian greyhound Hall of Fame. Bob raced Elle Dooley (Addicts Actor) winner of 13 races including a couple over 520m and 600m at Albion Park.
Hi David, A very potent line, with some unbelievable producer's. Just wondering what your thoughts are on with the opportunity with so many of girls from the line being able to replicate the dam line with sires that carry Bit Chili, eg Raw Ability which has already thrown a track record holder in Melcat Big Boy with this cross, but also now with Tommy Shelby and his 1/2 brother Jungle Deuce. I am hoping on a personal not it works with some of our bitches who carry Bit Chili's great producing full sister Tifi.
Back in 2011 I wrote an article about that great broodbitch ALICE DOOLEY. Four of the eight finalist in the Million Dollar Chase are from this direct female family. Here is the article on Alice Dooley.
BOB Bert gets a bit indignant these days when it comes to greyhounds. Bob thinks nothing of driving from his Tweed Heads home to the Ettrick property of Sue and Darryl Schafer to keep the place spick and span. Bob is an unassuming guy. He does the mowing and at the Schafers there is plenty to do, 40 acres of it. On any visit to Sue and Darryls greyhound rearing and training complex, youd almost miss Bob if he didnt stop to say hello, which he makes sure he does. While the Schafers have been turning out stars on their Ettrick property for a few years now, it is Bob who has reached the ultimate heights. Bob, you see, bred and raced wonder broodbitch Alice Dooley (Barrantes-Impish Dancer) the dam of Hall of Famer Paua To Burn. This is also the damline of such stars as Bit Chili, Prankster, Digital Magic, Danny Phantom, Did I Entertain and the New Zealand star Tricky Shelley. When Bob was young, one of his mates was a guy called Owen Makin, now a leading greyhound man. We lived at Bundeena south of Cronulla, said Bob. Owen left as a young bloke to move to west of Nowra. We saw each other on and off over the years. Their paths would cross in the early 1990s. Owen was in Queensland to race a dog in the Gold Coast Cup series. Bob by that time was living in Tweed Heads with his partner Toni Bovis. Theyd had a greyhound called Steal Home which had won a race but broke a hock. Owen sent up a bitch for us to race. Her name was Impish Dancer and we won with her at Tweed and Lismore. Owen had won a race at Bulli with her, said Bob. She was a sister to the dog he had brought up for the Gold Coast Cup. When Impish Dancer came on season, Bob decided hed mate her. Dennis Robinson had just retired Barrantes, said Bob. So we put Impish Dancer to him. Barrantes had been a brilliant race dog winning 11 and being placed four times in 22 starts. He could run sensational times and eventually would be sold to go to stud in the US. He sired a few handy dogs in the US and one of his daughters produced AA Grade Wheeling Downs performer Night Bandit. From that litter came an outstanding race bitch called Shelley Ball, the winner of 15 races and a Nowra track record breaker, Watch Me Know and Bar Dancer all better than handy performers. Bob and Toni had shifted south by this time, basing themselves at Nowra. We broke the pups in at Mick Abbotts and all won first up at Moss Vale. The following week we took them to Goulburn and three of them won, said Bob. We kept racing them and winning with them. It was easy to race at Appin on the Saturday and then Bulli on the Wednesday night. There was no penalty for the Appin win and it kept them fit for the Bulli race. Alice Dooley, according to Bob, was spirited to say the least. Shed run through a brick wall, he said. She was very quick out and won quite a few races. She wasnt as good as Shelley Ball who was the heady one of the litter. But Alice Dooley was the quickest. Bob sent Alice Dooley to his mate, Tweed copper Mark Johnston, who trained her for a while only for the bitch to injure a hip support which halted her career. Mark remembers her well. Toni was out walking a dog one morning and we crossed paths, said Mark. She and Robert asked about taking Alice Dooley, rang just out of the blue. Mark had Alice Dooley for a few months and won a couple at the Tweed including one in 23.87 and another over 520m in 29.73. She was not as good as her sister Shelley Bell, but you wouldnt find a more beautiful bitch than Alice Dooley. I remember saying to Toni you should breed with this bitch. Mark also remembers Alice Dooley had a trait of playing up badly in the boxes, she was that keen. She was a rocket, Mark said of Alice Dooleys racetrack ability. But it still has got to surprise you that she could produce one as good as Paua To Burn. At this time Bob had come back to the Tweed. He kept Shelley Ball and had four litters with her, few of them much good. Alice Dooley went to Steve Whyte on a pup deal with Bob and Toni. In all, Alice Dooley raced 64 times for 10 wins, 10 seconds and eight thirds. Her wins were at Moss Vale (18.08, 17.85), Bulli (25.46, 27.33), Tweed Heads (30.01, 29.73, 23.87 FFA), Nowra (31.05), Dapto (30.29) and Appin (15.91). She raced from September 9, 1995 to June 3, 1997. The rest is history that Steve put her to Awesome Assassin and along came Paua To Burn winner of the Golden Easter Egg, the Sapphire Crown twice, the Laurels, The Temlee and a spot in the Australian greyhound Hall of Fame. Bob raced Elle Dooley (Addicts Actor) winner of 13 races including a couple over 520m and 600m at Albion Park.
Hi David, A very potent line, with some unbelievable producer's. Just wondering what your thoughts are on with the opportunity with so many of girls from the line being able to replicate the dam line with sires that carry Bit Chili now, eg Raw Ability which has already thrown a track record holder in Melcat Big Boy with this cross, but also now with Tommy Shelby and his 1/2 brother Jungle Deuce. I am hoping on a personal note it works with some of our bitches who carry Bit Chili's great producing full sister Tifi.
Thanks.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 30 Apr 2022 19:42
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Hey Mick , we just gave a bitch away on a pup deal with the thoughts of doing similar with the intention of cementing the dam line. The bitch was unnamed but is by Barcia Bale X Honey Twist and I have a Bit Chilli straw for her and hope she has the majority of bitch pups. I put this forward on data sometime ago as a testmating but most comments were against this mating being too close and inbred etc. I dont care because I know it could produce something special and if it doesnt then Im pretty sure one of the offspring will produce. Its pretty much a reverse mating of Raw Ability, Jungle Deuce and Aston Dee Bee to an extent. Alice Dooley was no doubt one of the best. Anyway mate good luck with your plans. Cheers
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 30 Apr 2022 22:08
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Bringing in full relations into a pedigree can often upgrade for racetrack success. As Mick wrote, Tommy Shelby, Jungle Deuce, Raw Ability etc with Bit Chili as their damsire is a powerful influence. But, also the initial success at stud of Feral Franky from this very same damline also lends itself to matings that bring in a reinforcement of the Alice Dooley damline. This is one of the VERY best damlines this country has ever seen. I wonder if anyone has taken the time to study Alice Dooley's pedigree. She is saturated 2x1 to the virtual sisters Bush Ballad and Impish Dancer.
They are both by Brother Fox who is positioned to intensely impact upon the pedigree of Alice Dooley. You should all remember that Brother Fox's mother Pitstock Park was intensely in-bred 2x1 to the virtual sisters Dawn Moss and Copha Rev. Pitstock Park is in-bred 4x3 to legend Elsie Moss whose pedigree is one of the strongest examples of intense in-breeding ever. It should be studied closely.
BUT, also in the pedigree of Alice Dooley is a 3x3 cross of Drop Of Wine and All Over Again and they are virtual sisters as well. Both are daughters of Temlee, and both have Jetgoing in their direct damline.
No wonder Alice Dooley was able to become a dominant broodbitch and leave a lasting legacy ... she was saturated with some of the very best bloodlines this country has ever seen.
I have no doubt reinforcing such intensity can only be a good thing.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 01 May 2022 00:29
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Hey David, does that mean that you dont think my mating is too close. Cheers
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 01 May 2022 04:14
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Michael
I would rather put her to a dog like Tommy Shelby But I will always defend your right to do whatever matings you wish
DB
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 01 May 2022 05:18
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We were thinking of using Tommy the second time around and have also looked at Hay Fergus as I already have a straw. Thanks for your thoughts . Cheers
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 01 May 2022 05:25
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David Brasch wrote:
Michael
I would rather put her to a dog like Tommy Shelby But I will always defend your right to do whatever matings you wish
DB
Agree David, I think Tommy Shelby could be great for the line, on top of the Bit Chili x Tifi cross you also get the extra strains of Black Shiraz and Awesome Assasin through Fernando Bale but I also think the Farloe's Melody back in his dam line could also have a influence on pups seeing so many of the line have it in their pedigree through Where's Pedro or his brother or son Mogambo.
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