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Julie-anne. Hopper Australia (Verified User) Posts 10 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Mar 2023 04:45
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Sure suggestion for zipping annabel . Some different ideas and reasons would be great Thank in advance.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 05 Mar 2023 07:15
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Hardest chasing Barcia Bale son on the market imo https:/ CLICK HERE Produces super hard chasers too https:/ CLICK HERE
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Mar 2023 14:43
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Julie-anne. Hopper wrote:
Sure suggestion for zipping annabel . Some different ideas and reasons would be great Thank in advance.
Fernando looks gr8 at a quick glance at face value https:/ CLICK HERE .
Reasons:
His dam Chloe Allen carries different individuals in her ped that covers 88% (14 of 16 lines covered in the 5th gen) of Turanza Bale's ped https:/ CLICK HERE , therefore reintroducing a very high percentage of Turanza Bale back into the damline he was highly successful with previously.
Also Annabel is very closely related to Chloe https:/ CLICK HERE (illustrated using Chloe's brother Joshua), at an extremely high 94% (15 of 16 lines covered in the 5th gen),once again with different individuals.
If the nicks click, creating this much vigour in a ped on the front page, the outcross Kelso's Fusileer in a primary 'not in x' position is a necessity, playing his part to provide some balance to all that intensity.
Wld like to check out x path to see where that leads, however being back it the ped it can be time consuming. g/l if you go ahead Julie-anne.
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 641 Dogs 13 / Races 0 05 Mar 2023 18:39
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breeding my female was fun part of game all these theories can drive you crazy worst experience i had as runninh down 70 miles ay midnight to assist in whelping end result would have about 11pups but kept getting stillborns ended up with 4 all my breeding expertise out the windows end result no winners moral of story forget 3x3 nick double on damline genetics can make you forget why your breeding my motto is when you come to the fork in the road TAKE IT
Roger Spry United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 69 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Mar 2023 17:06
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Hi Julie -Anne Interesting to know what your aim is from the litter you plan, are you looking to get 500 -730mt hounds ? With Tifi and Many Tricks in your bitches lines, i would be looking to add another of the strongest staying lines ,Just Lilly the litter sister to the great Ballyregan Bob, this could well prove a good move and a chance to get a super stayer. Think of using Superior Panama if you want dogs that are strong.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Mar 2023 18:30
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Julie-anne. Hopper wrote:
Sure suggestion for zipping annabel . Some different ideas and reasons would be great Thank in advance.
Just recently registered ( unproven sire ) Awesome looking pedigree sex balance with strength Farmor Beach a double group winner, won in sub 30 seconds Albion pk 13 times BON 15 times. Won 600mt in sizzling 34.76
https:/ CLICK HERE Note 2x4 Al Fresco giving a mirror damline
Rod Strachan Australia (Verified User) Posts 3610 Dogs 46 / Races 16 06 Mar 2023 19:28
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Hi Julie-anne,
I have bred three litters with the Al Fresco strand of the Pringle/Hallinan dam line. Be very careful in your choices as in my opinion it is the hardest branch to get decent results from.
Zipping Maggie's own offspring should give you a transparent look at how hit and miss they can be.
Are you breeding to sell or keep?
Rod
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 06 Mar 2023 21:45
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Julie, out cross time.IMHO Aussie infrared is the best outcross sire in Australia. Aussie works best with tired lines and bitches who have strength in their lines, I note your bitch did race and win over 500m.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 07 Mar 2023 09:07
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Hey J.A , I like Wow. Not sure how his pups are pronounced. Cheers
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 07 Mar 2023 11:25
Julie-anne. Hopper Australia (Verified User) Posts 10 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 Mar 2023 23:58
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Probably a bit of both keep and sell . She has had on litter recently to FYING RICCIARDO OF 11 prior to us obtaining her. We had FERNADO in mind at first .
Julie-anne. Hopper Australia (Verified User) Posts 10 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Mar 2023 00:03
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Julie-anne. Hopper Australia (Verified User) Posts 10 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Mar 2023 00:29
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Thanks Ryan FERNANDO was who we were considering what do you think of JUNGLE DUECE mix.
Michael Fitzgerald Australia (Verified User) Posts 714 Dogs 11 / Races 25 14 Mar 2023 00:55
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 14 Mar 2023 04:49
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Julie-anne. Hopper wrote:
Thanks Ryan FERNANDO was who we were considering what do you think of JUNGLE DUECE mix.
No worries Julie-anne.
Just had a very quick look with the bitches Serena Fly High, Princess Bale & Web of Silence attached directly to his sireline and the greatest intensity to Turanza Bale was thru Web of Silence at about 62% in the 5th gen. Every damline you go back, it appears the slightly less chance you have of producing a world beater type, which means the best chance of doing that is thru the sire of choices immediate damline.
That's looking at your girl from a Turanza Bale perspective only as he's clicked with her damline before. This doesn't mean that JD's dam won't click with another sire that been successful with your girls damline, that's why it's important to identify which previously succesful sires you'd want to linebreed.
You really imo need to:
(i) break down that damline and work out which sire(s) have clicked with it previously;
(ii) linebreed them thru different individuals as I've previously shown with that Turanza Bale example and see what intensity it gives up
(iii) also look at x path to proven combinations.
With the JD example the litter wld primarily be linebred in the x path to Chili Berger 4x5 thru full blood relations Bit Chili and Tifi. You'd just want to see if that primary intensity in the x path has previously been proven if I was you.
I wld want both x path, and Tesio (Turanza Bale example) in the least, going for me in any ped. Cheers
Thomas Burns Australia (Verified User) Posts 2 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Mar 2023 05:20
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the only way to strengthen your damline. try Frehleys Comet.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 15 Mar 2023 07:37
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Im really liking Spring Gun with Indian Dance and Token Prince in X. Sobbing Sal is also nicely positioned. Should be strong offspring but feel BDC could inject some speed. Cant show testmating if someone could would be appreciated. Cheers
Rod Strachan Australia (Verified User) Posts 3610 Dogs 46 / Races 16 15 Mar 2023 19:21
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*shaking my head* at some suggestions here geez!
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Mar 2023 20:57
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Graham Moscow wrote:
Julie-anne. Hopper wrote:
Sure suggestion for zipping annabel . Some different ideas and reasons would be great Thank in advance.
Just recently registered ( unproven sire ) Awesome looking pedigree sex balance with strength Farmor Beach a double group winner, won in sub 30 seconds Albion pk 13 times BON 15 times. Won 600mt in sizzling 34.76
https:/ CLICK HERE Note 2x4 Al Fresco giving a mirror damline
Fernando x Alfresco line is proven so it makes sense https:/ CLICK HERE May get a dog the calibre of Farmor Beach
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4499 Dogs 70 / Races 14 15 Mar 2023 21:39
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If you are looking for an outcross Bernardo may be a good option !
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
