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David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 18 Mar 2023 18:47
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so in other words you like to post a big pile of shite ...you must have written 500 words on this thread with out saying anything constructive with half arguing and trying to put someone down and the other half pumping up your own tyres
if you dont do this and you dont do that wtf comment ? ...this site needs a block button amongst several other things
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 18 Mar 2023 19:49
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Theres a reason why many top trainers and breeders have been on this and other forums and no longer contribute. From memory PAW got into an argument or was abused and stopped posting. I remember the same with a top trainer as well.
Good luck with Starline Express and your litters :)
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 19 Mar 2023 01:54
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David Mennie wrote:
so in other words you like to post a big pile of shite ...you must have written 500 words on this thread with out saying anything constructive with half arguing and trying to put someone down and the other half pumping up your own tyres
if you dont do this and you dont do that wtf comment ? ...this site needs a block button amongst several other things
How dare you David, show some respect. Do you know who you are talking to? ;)
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 19 Mar 2023 02:35
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You should take a leaf out of your own book, my fellow nobody that thinks hes somebody, beating your chest thinking youre the custodian of the Data forum :)
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 19 Mar 2023 03:13
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906 posts and 900 would have been self-congratulatory or self-aggrandising. Someone's got huge tickets on himself and it ain't me brother.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 19 Mar 2023 03:21
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Im a doer, youre all talk. Ill stick to being me and you stick to being you. Enjoy your life champ ;)
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 19 Mar 2023 04:52
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The truly great breeders, are too busy, planning matings, whelping pups, Vaccinating pups, rearing pups, taking pups to the vet, nurturing pups, breaking in pups, pre-training pups and doing all the hard work that is the grass roots greyhound breeding. They speak loudest with their actions and results. They aren't dog bums like us, talking BS on Greyhound data forums, telling the world how good they are. Why do you think Paul Wheeler (RIP) didn't waste his time with this forum. It was a misuse of his valuable time. He was far too busy being hands on with his dogs and look at his incredible results.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 19 Mar 2023 05:20
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Agree with a lot of that, even had more than one person tell me why do I bother with this site. Just enjoy your dogs. Simply I like talking dogs and breeding.
Its a shame, because weve had some serious breeders and trainers on this site, but all have been had a crack at and decided to walk away. PAW was on both Global Greyhounds and here on Data, but got sick of the petty attacks on himself.
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 19 Mar 2023 05:22
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anybody name me one group dog that came from a dam that went to fernando but produced ordinary only to throw the group dog to another sire? Just one ?
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 19 Mar 2023 06:34
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Smart Missile from dam Oh Cee Ya Grand Intention from dam Maddison's Girl Mister Twister from dam Double Twist
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 19 Mar 2023 19:12
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tHANKYOU ryan appreciate you being on topic
breeding and selling pups covering costs etc is more difficult and also rehoming if they cant run
I have a well bred handy bitch ...BUT if she doesnt throw to the king ...do i back up ?
I have a real hunch straw to Goh and also a Sennachie straw if her pups can run to stay with the fernando line
Thats y i was interssted ty again
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 19 Mar 2023 19:19
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David Mennie wrote:
tHANKYOU ryan appreciate you being on topic
breeding and selling pups covering costs etc is more difficult and also rehoming if they cant run
I have a well bred handy bitch ...BUT if she doesnt throw to the king ...do i back up ?
I have a real hunch straw to Goh and also a Sennachie straw if her pups can run to stay with the fernando line
Thats y i was interssted ty again
David Mennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 657 Dogs 5 / Races 1 19 Mar 2023 19:21
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Dam double twist thru a couple of good ones ...to fernando was hear the drums went ok ...but yeah mister twister x collison was group class so ok to fernando but better to collision
Can see why not many rspnses ...this stuff not easy to research ...thats y i was hoping for someone who knws thier dogs and breeding ty again ryan
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 19 Mar 2023 20:05
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Youve researched Double Twist. If you care so much, go research his 100s of litters and let us all know the results - EXTERNAL LINK
Im an outcross fan, so gave you Indy Fido Australian Cup finalist to Droopys Jet (Ire), his sister Indy Matilda is super fast. Looking forward to seeing her pups race. Fernando Bale not up to the dams Droopys Jet (Ire) litter.
Mitchell Carter Australia (Verified User) Posts 63 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Mar 2023 09:45
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Hey Mate, Somthing else to consider... Double Twist (Wheres Pedro x Tifi) her Dam is Tifi who also produced Solar Pak (Mogambo x Tifi) therefore making her half sister to Double Twist i guess.
As you may known Solar Pak had 4 litters. Fernando Bale, Collision, Barcia Bale and now Kincloch Brae.
The collision litter produced 8 pups all very impressive dogs including Feral Franky and Good Odds Harada.
The fernando litter produced 10 pups. Again all great dogs but none that went to stud (I belive) in this litter.
Barcia litter only 3 with no great performers and the kinloch litter had 7 which are only new to the track with just a couple handy dogs.
I guess in essance this shows 4 different sires, 2 arguably the best and most commercial in our current market. Food for thought
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
