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Linebreeding options for 'Brett Lee'............page  1 2 3 

Darren John McKenzie
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Love him or hate him, 'Brett Lee' is a current day superstar, (imho)..........and plenty of bitches, (either from him or from his immediate family), grace the broodbitch ranks now.

But what pedigree name/s should cleverly linebreed the 'Brett Lee' pedigree ??

Here's a few names that I think might help you positively linebreed this line.......

Lets look at granddam 'Wee Sal'.......

Closely related 'male' names are 'Malawi's Prince', 'Shining Chariot/Pure Talent'.........

Closely related 'female' names are 'Genuine Replica', 'Centefire/Chariot's Desire', Alsvider', 'Raheen Star', Voodoo Lady'............

Lets look at dam 'Sobbing Sal'...........

Closely related 'male' names are 'Light Of Fire', 'Eureka Man', 'Ultimate Wish' and 'Dagenham' to a slighlty lesser extent.....

Closely related 'female' names are 'Blue Blue Day/Sheza Swifty' and to a lesser extent 'Kissy Bear' and 'New Wish........

What about 'Brett Lee's sire 'Gun Law Osti' ??

1x 'male' blood brother is 'Osti's Idol' ..........found as sire of 'Elle's Commando'........

Female blood sisters are 'Paris Match/Pilgrim's Star' and 'Amazing Osti/Dollar Bird'..........

And onto the 'Brett Lee' pedigree itself..............

'Bright Ebony' is very closely and cleverly related to the 'Brett Lee' pedigree............as is 'Prince Of Tigers'.

'Counter Power', a female name found in the damline of 'Chinatown Lad', is cleverly related to the 'Brett Lee' pedigree too........and interestingly, the 'Chinatown Lad/Falling Zorro' pedigree also boasts 'Light Of Fire/Centrefire' as well who are also from this extended family.........

So if you rate 'Brett Lee' highly and wish to capitalise via cleverly linebreeding his pedigree and closer up relations............or want to look to see if your precious brood might suit a sire from the champ's line...........try testmating 'searching' some of the names I've listed above...........

And if you can add any names to the above that I might have missed listing.......that can be found in sires standing today or might have a decent bearing for today's breeders looking to linebreed the 'Brett Lee' pedigree......how about posting them........love to know them all myself.

Good 'clever' linebreeding..............




Grant Thomas
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??? CLICK HERE ???

But lost to us.


Tom Flanagan
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24 Jul 2010 08:16


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Reckon you've just about got them covered Darren, but the question is - is linebreeding to Brett Lee's bloodlines the best way to go with his offspring.

What I'm getting at is that his daughters have outcrossed very well, as well as combining with the Black Shiraz line. Pure Octane provides the best example of linebreeding Brett Lee's daughters back to the Osti line, but I think good results will also come from breeding his outcrossed daughters and granddaughters (or Brett Lee daughters and grandaughters carrying Black Shiraz lines) back to Brett Lee grandsons such as Mogambo, El Galo, Bartrim Bale, Miagi etc. Or bringing in the outcross influence through the sire - Cosmic Rumble being one candidate for this.

For example, this is a mating I'd like to try CLICK HERE
Cheers,
Tom


Dan Hollywood
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24 Jul 2010 08:33


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Was thinking similar along your lines too Tom, Rather Brett Lee sons instead. Near did this mating last weekend CLICK HERE And something along these lines in the not to distant future
CLICK HERE


Kevin Robinson
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24 Jul 2010 08:44


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As always Daz great insight,for us dollards out here,please get us 'kick started' with some of your own views. In dollard speak if poss! Sorry to those who already posted , the posts where 0 when I put mine up. Would have been a shame not to get feedback on this topic
So how do the team think 3x4 4x4 L/Breeding to Gun law Osti will fair?


Dan Hollywood
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And Kevin what about all you guys back in the mother country, Brett Lee's blood is pumping through some mighty fine hounds there. With a couple of his sons at stud, and his daughters to your broods producing, im sure many would be thinking about it. We have seen what he can do over fresh blood, but this next generation is where it will start to pay off.



Grant Thomas
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Any of these something you are posting about D.M. ???

CLICK HERE


Kevin Robinson
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Yes Dan 'Crash' has done well, and Ireland is now 'Little Oz' in terms of breeding. I have a 13 month W/Hawk sapling X Geordie Martha (B/Lee bitch)she was unraced, has produced top class in all her 3 litters thus far, her dam line is however very top draw ( her Mum produced perhaps the best Whiskey Assasin dog on the planet ,in Dotland Hitman), so hard to gauge the Brett Lee factor.Ireland is in a really bad place breeding wise. But I wont go off topic with that.


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:25


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Tom Flanagan wrote:

Reckon you've just about got them covered Darren, but the question is - is linebreeding to Brett Lee's bloodlines the best way to go with his offspring.

What I'm getting at is that his daughters have outcrossed very well, as well as combining with the Black Shiraz line. Pure Octane provides the best example of linebreeding Brett Lee's daughters back to the Osti line, but I think good results will also come from breeding his outcrossed daughters and granddaughters (or Brett Lee daughters and grandaughters carrying Black Shiraz lines) back to Brett Lee grandsons such as Mogambo, El Galo, Bartrim Bale, Miagi etc. Or bringing in the outcross influence through the sire - Cosmic Rumble being one candidate for this.

For example, this is a mating I'd like to try CLICK HERE
Cheers,
Tom

Probably still a tad early to tell Tom..............although if breeding to the good dog himself was the sole issue, then I reckon broods with any of the above would supply some decent 'Brett Lee' kids for the breeder..............and I wouldn't be concerned breeding a grand-daughter of the champ back to the champ himself if the right grand-daughter was available either !!

I agree with your thoughts..........doubling him as the theme just about has to work doesn't it............if the past is anything to go by.

Glad you're a 'Cosmic' fan too..................plenty aren't.

The 'Bobniak/Talks Cheap/Paddy's Flame/Cosmic Rumble's' of this world, with their diluted pedigree, don't have to be the quickest and fastest hounds to grace a track............all they have to have decent enough speed/ability...........and given decent linebreeding to their aussie damlines, the vitality they offer more than makes up for any short-fall imho.

'Bobniak' sired 'Some Secret'..........it's fact at the fastest level !!

What about your 'Bombastic Shiraz/Brett Lee' girl to 'Collision', and a daughter to 'Cosmic' !!!!

CLICK HERE

Don't tell me that wouldn't do the trick for some of the kids !!


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:32


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Dan,

I like both of them..............especially the linebred 'Raheen Star' mating.......excellent female line hers !!


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:38


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kevin robinson wrote:

As always Daz great insight,for us dollards out here,please get us 'kick started' with some of your own views. In dollard speak if poss! Sorry to those who already posted , the posts where 0 when I put mine up. Would have been a shame not to get feedback on this topic
So how do the team think 3x4 4x4 L/Breeding to Gun law Osti will fair?

Hey Kev,

You'd be a brave follower to suggest linebreeding 'Gun Law Osti' 3x4 or 4x4 wouldn't work...............

You know me though, the more 'clever' the better in a mix for me............but I'm more than happy to have him doubled.........even knowing he was a 'cat' himself as a race dog........so I'm told :)

I'd have to have a dose of 'Paris Match' or sister 'Pilgrim's Star' in a 'Gun Law Osti' linebreeding theme though............super insurance for mine for a top result.


Tom Flanagan
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24 Jul 2010 11:42


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Darren I have these ones on the way CLICK HERE and this combination is currently pencilled in CLICK HERE Cheers,
Tom


Darren McKenzie
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grant thomas wrote:

Any of these something you are posting about D.M. ???

CLICK HERE

No Grant,

Just rambling off the top...............hoping I hadn't missed any possible 'noteable' linebreeding options or the champ and his family.

Had a quick look at those you mentioned though just now.........not surprising some can get along.............doubling up quality can sometimes work ay :)


Tom Flanagan
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Darren McKenzie wrote:

Hey Kev,

You'd be a brave follower to suggest linebreeding 'Gun Law Osti' 3x4 or 4x4 wouldn't work...............


CLICK HERE
So there's one you missed - Elgrando - LOL - and he brings in the tried and true Black Shiraz combination as well.


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:47


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Tom Flanagan wrote:

Darren I have these ones on the way CLICK HERE and this combination is currently pencilled in CLICK HERE Cheers,
Tom

I remember you mentioning that Tom..............nice..........and exactly what I'm getting at.

'Rumble Spirit' is a no brainer for a keen linebreeder............just got to get enough kids arrive.

So have you got 'Hawk' pups bred this way yet or are they still in the pipeline ??


Tom Flanagan
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24 Jul 2010 11:48


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Darren McKenzie wrote:

Tom Flanagan wrote:

Darren I have these ones on the way CLICK HERE and this combination is currently pencilled in CLICK HERE Cheers,
Tom

I remember you mentioning that Tom..............nice..........and exactly what I'm getting at.

'Rumble Spirit' is a no brainer for a keen linebreeder............just got to get enough kids arrive.

So have you got 'Hawk' pups bred this way yet or are they still in the pipeline ??

Due next Friday! And she is huge.


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:48


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Tom Flanagan wrote:

Darren McKenzie wrote:

Hey Kev,

You'd be a brave follower to suggest linebreeding 'Gun Law Osti' 3x4 or 4x4 wouldn't work...............


CLICK HERE
So there's one you missed - Elgrando - LOL - and he brings in the tried and true Black Shiraz combination as well.

Can't believe I missed him - thanks.

Big belly ??????????


Tom Flanagan
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24 Jul 2010 11:50


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The vet counted 11 when she was scanned (when she had 13 the vet only counted 7)


Darren McKenzie
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24 Jul 2010 11:56


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geezuz...............not much wrong with that frozen then.

Well that's bloody exciting ay.............great time hatching out a new batch when it's not only good on paper itself but there's a plan coming into being with it...........

I have an 'Hallucinate' litter due in about a month linebred 'Osti' balanced........first time for me having this blood linebred.............I've admired 'DOSS' for ages.........hope both these come into being without any drama.

cheers


Darren McKenzie
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Kev Robo,

Slightly off topic 'linebreeding' question for you.........re 'Premier Fantasy' ??

I see a nice little linebreeding opportunity with 'PF's' 'Nifty Niamh/Vintage Prince' lines with the 'Droopy's Kristin/Annies Bullet/Don's Pride' and 'Ballinclare Star' damlines...........

Have you noticed the likes of 'Scholes' or 'Climate Control' or Judicial Pride' or 'Razldazl Billy' daughters kicking a goal with 'PF' ??

On paper it looks a great linebreeding........

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