so many variables to deal with.

myself it never bothered me....in fact i have a COLLISION pup starting his career right now, and he is by an unraced dam...and he moves very well.

so consider the outstanding plusses in the dam, and thoroughly do the homework on the parentage...certain signs will indicate she is worth a go.
look for strength in the dam line firstly.....unbroken producers of city stock all the way through would be a great starting point.
a good dam line will produce city class stock virtually out of every dam from the line that goes to stud....so that is my first viewing.

sire is extremely important...dont just pick the fashionable sire....do the homework and delve again for 'nicks and clicks' of sires that suit the dams lineage...heaps of info on here about that.

and most of all...she must be a good mum...crap broods can destroy the chances of the pups right from day one....a great broody will give them that all important start in life, and believe me, that is the most important time in the breeding cycle.

have fun and dont get dispirited if the positives do not equal the negatives....all that means is you wont waste time and finances.

daz

It sure has Sara, and the thing you have to realise is they are bred and designed to run. However i believe racing around a circle and up a straight is not a breed trait and something you instil into your pups so rearing is the key. Quality race stock have eventuated from all types in the breed, there is no rule other than to give them the best opportunity. The geyhound has not changed much in type over the last hundred plus years, in regard to any change incured to the breed from the track, cant see much there either. The right enviroment and education will give best results from any bitch whether unraced, slow, fast or lightly raced.

My other bitch Crystal Siyan has left PHILBY currently earnings of $ 53.000 and ran a credable race in a heat of this years Melb Cup , SO NO a bitch who has not raced DOES not mean it wont through VERY VERY good racedogs.

To me its a cop out
Different if you breed a bitch for three or four litters and she leaves nil but other wise WHY NOT .Breeding is not black and white so therefore GOD only knows.
MICHAEL

i have bred from race winning bitches with mixed results .
i have an unraced spiral nakita bitch in pup to magambo at the moment,

her sister also unraced, from her one and only pup to race won first up at bendigo a few weeks , is now in season so off the race scene
for a while ,
the mother of the spiral nakita bitches was also unraced, and she threw winners as well,
i might be a little biased but i think spiral nakita bitches could well provide some stars of the future ,
who best to breed them too may be the secret to success, but good hard chasing sires from the brett lee line may be the go ,
mick

but, providing certain criteria is met, i see no harm in giving a bitch at least one chance....but it has to be treated as though she was a star...top sire/top whelping/top rearing/top feeding...etc; etc; etc;

to many that have proven 'theories' wrong, so i say why not.

i have a WP bitch here with me now....my criteria is she must WIN AT LEAST a couple of races before i would consider....some others will snap her up just to breed with...but thats my criteria.

and let me assure you, she will stay with me until the day she dies....she is my baby and we are great mates.

but i still wouldnt breed with her if she could not pass phase 1.

daz

if they are honest, then the bitch at some stage would have shown something...before the injury, or illness or whatever took its toll.
but then they have the hard task of convincing us, the purchasers of the noted 'in-house' ability, but nothing for the purchaser to hang there coat on.

still like we all know, there really is no golden rule....unless you set your own rules and abide them.

daz

Here are some of my findings

Lankan Hope - unraced litter sister to Trewly Special, Go Forever dam of ALIWISHES JONES Albion Park 29.72, 29.79

Nikita Grove - unraced litter sister to Spiral Magic dam of HELLA GOOD - Richmond 30.39, 30.57 (dam line of BOND, DANCING HABIT, MOST AWESOME etc )

Subjective Lee unraced litter did nothing dam of RUFF IT, CERTAIN MAGIC, VELOCITY FORCE, VELOCITY CLOUD, Flying Costanza (significance dam line of JUST THE BEST, FLYING
AMY, TENTHILL DOLL etc)

Hunter Tylo - unraced member of moderately performed litter dam of OH BEHAVE - dam line of BRETT LEE, BIG DADDY COOL, HIGHLY BLESSED etc

Tranquil Scene - unraced litter sister to LILLI PILLI LAD dam of ROBUST CHARACTER, BLACK ANVIL, SPIRIT OF WILL etc (dam line of AWESOME ASSASSIN, KNOCKA NORRIS, ARSONIST, ISA BROWN etc)

Prima Portrait - unraced litter sister to SPLASH OF COLOUR dam of PRIMO UNO (dam line of BLACK SHIRAZ, BIG GINGER BOY etc)

Treb Lass - unraced litter sister to New Tears dam of HANSON BLAZE

Vee Girl Vane - unraced litter sister to VEE MAN VANE dam of KELLY'S HERO

Stresa - unraced litter did nothing dam of DAYDREAM, BIT STRESSED, ROSE ANJANE, VANDERLIN

Flipper - unraced litter did nothing dam of C'EST LA VIE, LIZARD MAN, LEND US FIFTY - dam line of SURF LORIAN

Maple Bale - unraced litter sister to BUTTSIE BALE dam of DENTAX BALE, ZAMBOLA BALE

Iza Tora - unraced half sister to STAR BEYOND TIME dam of MR METZ

Flickering Lady - unraced litter sister to ISA BROWN dam of ARSONIST - dam line of KNOCKA NORRIS, AWESOME ASSASSIN, FEDEX, ISA BROWN etc

Little Souix - unraced litter sister to ROONEY dam of MESSI...dam line of PRIMO UNO, BLACK SHIRAZ, BIG GINGER BOY, METICULOUS etc

Sound Lee - unraced litter sister to HADES ROCKET dam of PURE INSPIRATION, REGAL BLAZE, NITRANE...dam line of HEAD HONCHO etc

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its interesting because niether his dam subjective lee, nor subjective ever raced. so two unraced dams close up produced 3 track record holders in the one litter.