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Michael Maguire Australia (Verified User) Posts 781 Dogs 1 / Races 0 19 Nov 2010 07:39
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DAN a very true statement There is no definative answer Your very correct
Sara Monk United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 246 Dogs 24 / Races 0 19 Nov 2010 13:54
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Una Holmes wrote:
Would this be a top honcho bitch sara ?
No Una, I already think that one is worth a shot!
John Marriott United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 615 Dogs 16 / Races 15 19 Nov 2010 18:46
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It would depend upon WHY they were unraced ?
Many say "unraced kept especially for breeding" when in fact they mean "dare not put her on a track as she is faulty, fights, or does not chase properly".
The droopys lads are regularly quoted when this topic is mentioned but they have usually given the bitch some trials including at least one official trial so that they know that she could run a bit.
Personally my view is that bitches (like all greyhounds) are bred to at least race a few times to see where the strengths and weaknesses are....otherwise how do you know what to put in to improve your stock ?
Shaun Gresham United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 5162 Dogs 29 / Races 0 19 Nov 2010 20:01
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imo for what its worth ,id rather breed from a top class race bitch as you know they were straight and quick ,i beleive you have more chance of producing genuine chase .
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 19 Nov 2010 21:15
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Well John i'd be stuffed why one would breed from a faulty, fighter or non chasing skunk. Actually i think it be rare for one to chance a bitch with those attributes and not sensible at all. However it does happen, although i think the opinions of this type of mating would occur more. But again thats just how the breed today is, and will continue so as this is what results from commercial breeding.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 19 Feb 2023 05:13
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Hey Dixie, maybe you should revisit this thread. Some very sensible comments from some highly respected breeders. Yes, dont worry you do feature in the post in the typical Dixie Way. Hey , wait a minute, another good name for a dog (DIXIE WAY). I like it , what about you Dixie. Maybe Ron could call one of his RA,s out of his useless bitch that name. Who knows could turn out to be a champion. Cheers
Donna Sadler Australia (Verified User) Posts 1731 Dogs 59 / Races 6 20 Feb 2023 01:04
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As Michael Macquire said - he had two un raced bitched - Spiral Siyan and Crystal Siyan. Both were un raced and been successful broods. Spiral, in particlular, was a tiny little brindle girl I chose not to race and she has gone on to produce MULTIPLE Group winning dogs including Kiss Me Katut and Mystic Apple. Interestingly her dam, Flight and Life, was ALSO unraced. Neither Spiral's litter or Flight's litter produced any notable race dogs. So not a lot to go on with when deciding to breed or not BUT the breeding was there - SN over a Light of Fire/Flying Amy direct daughter - a very strong successful damline. Researching the breeding and traits and choosing to put this girl to hard chasers resulted in some very good dogs. In saying that, I am not condoning or knocking breeding un raced bitches. Its proven that it can work sometimes BUT I think you have to have some powerful bloodlines, a very strong damline and lots of luck. Nice to see Siyan girls in the bloodlines of some really good dogs. Well done to the breeders of these dogs.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 23 Feb 2023 07:24
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Pretty sure Elusive Rebel was not raced?. Cheers
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 23 Feb 2023 09:35
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Temora Lee unraced
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 23 Feb 2023 10:06
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michael worth wrote:
Pretty sure Elusive Rebel was not raced?. Cheers
She definitely raced. I saw her win a race at Wentworth park
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 23 Feb 2023 12:31
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I reckon she might have gotten a ticket too.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 23 Feb 2023 18:49
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
michael worth wrote:
Pretty sure Elusive Rebel was not raced?. Cheers
She definitely raced. I saw her win a race at Wentworth park
Hey Sandro, I definitely wouldnt doubt your word. It says on Fast Track she was unraced and also on data. I understand data is not always up to date with racing but grv are usually pretty good. That may have been her only start but certainly not showing as racing or winning. Cheers
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 23 Feb 2023 19:25
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Hi Michael, if I didn't actually see her race I would be in your boat
What I have found is that race records for greyhounds born over 25 years ago is either patchy or missing
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 23 Feb 2023 21:09
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Im pretty sure, she won at Wenty in 30.30 and Richmond in around 30.70. She got a ticket, I think for fighting? It was a prolific Wenty winning litter - Some Secret very fast, Kidman, Hidden Affair, Banderas etc Secret Bride, Spanish City were speedy Group class bitches as well.
Proper Pom produced this very fast Group class dog at Harold Park - EXTERNAL LINK
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
