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That record won't be broken in Otago for a very very long time
Simon Milgate Australia (Verified User) Posts 2043 Dogs 23 / Races 0 14 Nov 2017 15:41
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Eng/Ire top ten sires on G-Data Kinloch Brae sitting on top and three of his sons in the top ten is pretty impressive.
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3160 Dogs 12 / Races 0 14 Nov 2017 19:13
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simon milgate wrote:
Eng/Ire top ten sires on G-Data Kinloch Brae sitting on top and three of his sons in the top ten is pretty impressive.
What a gun sire. His price tag prob stops a lot of people using him but well worth it.
We have 2 litters by him 1 is 12 months old we couldn't be happier and the others are about 6 weeks old.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 14 Nov 2017 22:54
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Sorry, slightly off topic but would anyone know if there is a close double of FORTRESS in any current sire? GD says there isn't. Kinloch has one. BTW, not knocking Kinloch... He's the real deal.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 14 Nov 2017 23:05
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Michael
Zinzan Brooke currently being registered for Stud Duties
If you see Wayne Thomson around the traps ask him or PM me for his number
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 14 Nov 2017 23:14
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Sorry, slightly off topic but would anyone know if there is a close double of FORTRESS in any current sire? GD says there isn't. Kinloch has one. BTW, not knocking Kinloch... He's the real deal.
Vans Escalade has one also
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 14 Nov 2017 23:15
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great sire, and has done well here in aus ,, still well priced straws can still be got for under 6gran
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 14 Nov 2017 23:18
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Sorry, slightly off topic but would anyone know if there is a close double of FORTRESS in any current sire? GD says there isn't. Kinloch has one. BTW, not knocking Kinloch... He's the real deal.
Actually noticed a litter for sale today with a double of fortress. Kinloch the sire and Vans Escalade the dams sire
Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1549 Dogs 40 / Races 3 15 Nov 2017 00:33
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Zin Zan Brooke
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 15 Nov 2017 01:53
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Michael
Zinzan Brooke currently being registered for Stud Duties
If you see Wayne Thomson around the traps ask him or PM me for his number
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 15 Nov 2017 02:01
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trent wrigley wrote:
Zin Zan Brooke
Cheers Trent.
Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1549 Dogs 40 / Races 3 15 Nov 2017 02:55
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She isn't a sire but can run a bit Fanta bale
Thomas Bambury Ireland (Verified User) Posts 69 Dogs 1 / Races 0 21 Nov 2017 06:33
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Dean townsend wrote:
Michael Geraghty wrote:
Sorry, slightly off topic but would anyone know if there is a close double of FORTRESS in any current sire? GD says there isn't. Kinloch has one. BTW, not knocking Kinloch... He's the real deal.
Actually noticed a litter for sale today with a double of fortress. Kinloch the sire and Vans Escalade the dams sire
I bought the only dog pup that was for sale in that litter am considering buying a bitch as well even though I don't normally buy bitches will be reared with full freedom on a large dairy farm. (Edited by Admin)
Has anyone else noticed a massive resurgence of Kinloch Brae off spring winning recently ? And some rather smart ones too
Yes I have noticed , they are a beautiful breed I like how they Chase all day but have also have a smart temperament about them and also being very durable ! What more could you ask for ? It's his second and final wave coming through mick and there is surely going to be some beauties!
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 29 Sep 2018 19:57
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Yes Mick and for me the explanation is simple. One thing that is important for sires is opportunity based on numbers. In other words having numbers of pups coming through has a direct correlation to the number of good pips a site can produce. There are of course other things but numbers is the starting point.
Kinloch brae only served 35 bitches in 2015 Australia and New Zealand. A very small number of bitches. This means that there only a small number of new progeny coming through in 2017 and even the early part of this year.
In 2016 with popularity of Kinloch going up at the time with some quality pups racing he served 65 bitches. A big increase. Thats why you are seeing more kinlochs now coming through. Remember 65 of a reduced total Number of Litters too. I am not sure what all the figures are for all the sires in 2015 and 2016 is but it is very interesting and this does tell a story.
In the first half, to June, of 2017 I think he has served around another 40 bitches. So expect them to keep coming.
I might go through the exact numbers of a few sites during these periods later and post them. It is very interesting.
For Kinloch he always got some high quality bitches. It was purely a numbers game FYI he has served over 500 bitches over his stud career in aus/Nz.
I actually just bought a litter of kinlochs, less one pup the breeder wanted to keep.
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 29 Sep 2018 20:16
Like all sires, when they get numbers and runners they get noticed
This year there will be less Fernando's than last year as in 2016/17 season, he has only 49 litters, whereas will be more Fabregas & Kinloch Brae as they have 80 litters each
The daddy of them all is Barcia Bale with 164 litters, he dominates in numbers by at least 2 to 1 over every other sire
However, what is most important is the percentage of pups they get to the track and how many of those win races for their connections
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
