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Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 03:09
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I have always used Calci D or Caldogcium.
My issue isn't the quality of these products but the ever growing price, by March this year i will have approx 70 pups on the property and i'm just seeing if their is both a cost effective and quality alternative that i've not heard of.
My Vitamin retailer has suggested "Dolomite" and "Amino Cal plus" as alternatives but the more research i do, the more questions i find myself asking.
Any suggestions would be very much welcome.
Thnx, Mel
Brenton Wilson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1567 Dogs 10 / Races 38 03 Jan 2013 03:32
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Melissa Hayward wrote:
I have always used Calci D or Caldogcium.
My issue isn't the quality of these products but the ever growing price, by March this year i will have approx 70 pups on the property and i'm just seeing if their is both a cost effective and quality alternative that i've not heard of.
My Vitamin retailer has suggested "Dolomite" and "Amino Cal plus" as alternatives but the more research i do, the more questions i find myself asking.
Any suggestions would be very much welcome.
Thnx, Mel
Melissa, we had a dog with a hair line fracture of his hock, and our vet recommended using Calrate 2 x tablets daily duirng the period or repair 6-8 weeks. he has never had a problem since, youch wood..
One of our pups came off the rearing paddock, and had a small stress fracture in his scaffoid, we did the same thing for 4-6 weeks, and so far we've had no problems. Whether it was the tablets, rest or both, I do believe they help.
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 03 Jan 2013 05:04
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I use Rapidvite Action Cal-Phos Granules (recommended to me by Alistair Smith at Sandown). I pay $100 for a 10kg bucket from the Collins' down at Lara.
Sharon Wells Australia (Verified User) Posts 272 Dogs 13 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 05:11
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Melissa we mix dolomite and calcium carb bought from the local rural place cheap $23 for the 2 products and we have strong grown pups here and touch wood hardly ever a bone problem hope this helps.
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 06:53
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Mark Schlegel wrote:
I use Rapidvite Action Cal-Phos Granules (recommended to me by Alistair Smith at Sandown). I pay $100 for a 10kg bucket from the Collins' down at Lara.
Hi Mark,
My only concern with that particular product, is that i was told that it lacks a certain vitamin that allows the calcium too properly access the puppies bones (deep into the marrow). Vitamin D and magnesium if i remember correctly. Yet it is a great product for race dogs. I'm not sure what you use it for but i was told from a rapidvite person that the amino cal plus product was designed psecifically for puppies and broods. I will look into it further though, cheers for your help.
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 06:54
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Thanks Sharon and Brenton, i'll do some more research on these products you've mentioned.
cheers
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 03 Jan 2013 08:23
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Melissa, if you are interested, Jack Ogilvie makes a product called calcium plus, and it has the ingredients you want in it. Have a look at his website.
Howard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2280 Dogs 274 / Races 200 03 Jan 2013 08:23
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Melissa Hayward wrote:
Hi Mark,
My only concern with that particular product, is that i was told that it lacks a certain vitamin that allows the calcium too properly access the puppies bones (deep into the marrow). Vitamin D and magnesium if i remember correctly. Yet it is a great product for race dogs. I'm not sure what you use it for but i was told from a rapidvite person that the amino cal plus product was designed psecifically for puppies and broods. I will look into it further though, cheers for your help.
Don't know who told you that but they are sadly misinformed!!
Action Calphos granules was formulated by the late, great greyhound veterinary specialist Dr. Jim Gannon and has been widely used by the greyhound fraternity for close to 40 years and has always had a good reputation for building good solid bone in pups and racers. I'll back Dr.Gannon's reputation every day of the week against whoever gave you that info at Rapidvite. All Rapidvite did was buy the formula from the previous owner of the product and rebadge the product. You will see on the label the correct dosage from 3 mths to racing.
P.S. Rapidvite also bought the formula for what is still the best Kidney health product on the market Action AKM [Alkalinising Kidney Mixture].....also a Dr. Jim Gannon formula that has also stood the test of time.
In essence all Rapidvite has done is re-badge the products and jack the prices up!!!
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 03 Jan 2013 09:03
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Agree with Howard...advice between Jim Gannon and a rep from Rapidvite?
That's like comparing a Maserati to a Gogomobil.
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 09:25
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Howard Gray wrote:
Melissa Hayward wrote:
Hi Mark,
My only concern with that particular product, is that i was told that it lacks a certain vitamin that allows the calcium too properly access the puppies bones (deep into the marrow). Vitamin D and magnesium if i remember correctly. Yet it is a great product for race dogs. I'm not sure what you use it for but i was told from a rapidvite person that the amino cal plus product was designed psecifically for puppies and broods. I will look into it further though, cheers for your help.
Don't know who told you that but they are sadly misinformed!!
Action Calphos granules was formulated by the late, great greyhound veterinary specialist Dr. Jim Gannon and has been widely used by the greyhound fraternity for close to 40 years and has always had a good reputation for building good solid bone in pups and racers. I'll back Dr.Gannon's reputation every day of the week against whoever gave you that info at Rapidvite. All Rapidvite did was buy the formula from the previous owner of the product and rebadge the product. You will see on the label the correct dosage from 3 mths to racing.
P.S. Rapidvite also bought the formula for what is still the best Kidney health product on the market Action AKM [Alkalinising Kidney Mixture].....also a Dr. Jim Gannon formula that has also stood the test of time.
In essence all Rapidvite has done is re-badge the products and jack the prices up!!!
Howard, i appreciate your info on the product and i apologise mark for passing on incorrect info but i guess i can't assume all reps are going too pass on correct and accurate info.
I'll read abit more into Action Calphos granules.
Thanks for the positive imput.
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 03 Jan 2013 09:26
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Carole Brown wrote:
Melissa, if you are interested, Jack Ogilvie makes a product called calcium plus, and it has the ingredients you want in it. Have a look at his website.
Thanks Carole, have you used the product before?
Gregory Norman Pomeroy New Zealand (Verified User) Posts 15 Dogs 1 / Races 0 04 Jan 2013 07:33
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We just feed chicken necks with beef and plenty of them after talking to Paul Wheeler on the same subject once.Had no problems with the pups we have reared. Cant beat the natural source.
Barry Ribbons Australia (Verified User) Posts 847 Dogs 68 / Races 231 04 Jan 2013 07:52
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 04 Jan 2013 08:24
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Melissa Hayward wrote:
..... and i apologise mark for passing on incorrect info but i guess i can't assume all reps are going too pass on correct and accurate info.
I'll read abit more into Action Calphos granules.
Thanks for the positive imput.
No problem.
As I mentioned, I was put onto this by Alistair Smith at Sandown who is one of the absolute best in the business. I trust his advice completely.
FWIW, I find 10kg lasts me about a month with 25 dogs (pups and racers). That's $1 a week per dog. Not bad really.
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 04 Jan 2013 09:13
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Gregory Norman Pomeroy wrote:
We just feed chicken necks with beef and plenty of them after talking to Paul Wheeler on the same subject once.Had no problems with the pups we have reared. Cant beat the natural source.
All the pups on the property get chicken necks 2-3 times a week as a midday snack, normally frozen and they love it. You see them dive away into a corner and have a good chew lol
Melissa Hayward Australia (Verified User) Posts 764 Dogs 10 / Races 0 04 Jan 2013 09:14
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Mark Schlegel wrote:
Melissa Hayward wrote:
..... and i apologise mark for passing on incorrect info but i guess i can't assume all reps are going too pass on correct and accurate info.
I'll read abit more into Action Calphos granules.
Thanks for the positive imput.
No problem.
As I mentioned, I was put onto this by Alistair Smith at Sandown who is one of the absolute best in the business. I trust his advice completely.
FWIW, I find 10kg lasts me about a month with 25 dogs (pups and racers). That's $1 a week per dog. Not bad really.
Thanx Mark, i made some more enquiries today and will be giving it ago. Appreciate your advice.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15478 Dogs 0 / Races 1 14 Jun 2013 10:44
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Carole Brown wrote:
Melissa, if you are interested, Jack Ogilvie makes a product called calcium plus, and it has the ingredients you want in it. Have a look at his website.
Thanks Carole. Many Trainers are now using my calcium plus .it has two types of calcium ,phosphorus,carrot powder as vitamin A ,magnesium,vitaminD ,spirulina,Chia. Many forum members use it. Melissa can't put up link but see my add in the business section
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 14 Jun 2013 11:21
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PAW told me many years a go that Animals on a red meat diet need calcium and phosphorus, i also used calcium Sandoz very good and very expensive.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 14 Jun 2013 14:13
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Jack, can you shoot me an email [email protected] and I will give your product a go. Cheers Rich. (Cant be bothered with order forms and stuff, just want to send the $ and get the product.... Hope you dont mind)
Mellissa, and anyone else, interested in this. Save your money, and start putting SEA KELP, on your dogs feed every day. Highest form of calcium, as well very high in Iodine. Build your dogs strong, and help keep there Thyroid in check. really your missing out if you don't have this in your feeding system. 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon every day per dog.
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