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milldean panther pups
Vera Martindale United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 97 Dogs 7 / Races 0 15 Feb 2014 20:17
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what type of pups does panther throw ? staying types early pace are breeders happy with his pups he has chucked to there bitches im thinking off useing him on my bitch by scolari [messina]
John Marriott United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 581 Dogs 24 / Races 4 16 Feb 2014 15:21
Milldean Panther had a couple of handy dogs early doors but it doesnt seem like hes had many good ones now.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 11 Sep 2018 09:58
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A bit over 50 litters of racing age, give or take I believe, Darren.
Bobby Scullion United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 377 Dogs 13 / Races 0 11 Sep 2018 14:36
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I bred cesarewithch winner to him and they threw open class I was delighted with them. I also bred her half sister to him bitch pup qualified in an open class time 3rd time in traps. In Aus he had some very special pups. I would use him again... I had open sprinter open middle distance and a couple of open marathon in first litter. Take a chance with him u won't be dissapointed
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3160 Dogs 12 / Races 0 12 Sep 2018 09:41
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Anthony Jeffress wrote:
A bit over 50 litters of racing age, give or take I believe, Darren.
Thanks mate. Hes not really getting used by many in OZ.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7403 Dogs 26 / Races 9 12 Sep 2018 09:51
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his semen was imported here at a cost of $2400 but through in fighting some where between here and ireland ,, his semen was all of a sudden , handled by another stud master at $1400 ,
because of this the chance to really promote the dog here was LOST
at this time his semen has very little commercial value , i paid $2400 for the one i have , if you do a search you will see all the posts ,
he aint the first sire to fail by bad promotion
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3160 Dogs 12 / Races 0 13 Sep 2018 05:02
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Michael Barry wrote:
his semen was imported here at a cost of $2400 but through in fighting some where between here and ireland ,, his semen was all of a sudden , handled by another stud master at $1400 ,
because of this the chance to really promote the dog here was LOST
at this time his semen has very little commercial value , i paid $2400 for the one i have , if you do a search you will see all the posts ,
he aint the first sire to fail by bad promotion
Hi Michael
Yes I hear what your saying but but hes had a few litters I know there were a couple of really handy ones but most were only average at best.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 13 Sep 2018 09:27
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bobby scullion wrote:
Take a chance with him u won't be dissapointed
I did Bobby & got great results which included Multiple City winners & a Group performer that made 4 finals including the QLD Derby at only his 4th start.
It's a shame he's only had 50 litters in 6 & a half years in Australia (that's just 8 per year on average) as his stats, especially on Group race results, suggest he's got the goods.
Group Starts - 37 Wins - 8 2nds - 7 3rds - 4 Group wins - 22% or 1 win every 5 Group starts. That's way above the average of 12%.
Bobby, I believe his daughters will be absolutely sensational in the breeding barn, especially when crossed back to an Australian sire.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7403 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 Sep 2018 09:44
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steven martin wrote:
bobby scullion wrote:
Take a chance with him u won't be dissapointed
I did Bobby & got great results which included Multiple City winners & a Group performer that made 4 finals including the QLD Derby at only his 4th start.
It's a shame he's only had 50 litters in 6 & a half years in Australia (that's just 8 per year on average) as his stats, especially on Group race results, suggest he's got the goods.
Group Starts - 37 Wins - 8 2nds - 7 3rds - 4 Group wins - 22% or 1 win every 5 Group starts. That's way above the average of 12%.
Bobby, I believe his daughters will be absolutely sensational in the breeding barn, especially when crossed back to an Australian sire.
like i said steve ,, the promotion was dismal at best ,,
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 13 Sep 2018 10:06
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Yes I no. I did, & went through exactly what you stated in the early stages as I got in early too. Don't waste that Vial. Use it on one of those El Galo bitches (if you still have one) as he'll add strength.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7403 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 Sep 2018 10:21
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steven martin wrote:
Yes I no. I did, & went through exactly what you stated in the early stages as I got in early too. Don't waste that Vial. Use it on one of those El Galo bitches (if you still have one) as he'll add strength.
steve , im doing this in a pup deal with john staines CLICK HERE the elgalo bitch i got im using kinloch brae , next month when she comes on CLICK HERE thats the finish of all the straws i have , and id say thats curtains for us , time to spend some time in the sun lol
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 12 Oct 2018 02:05
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Del Rey ---. CLICK HERE wins the Group 3 Gold Coast Cup last night.
Milldean Panther has now produced - 38 Group Starters for - 9 - Winners 7 - 2nds 4 - 3rds That's 23.68% have won or 1 Group win every 4.2 Group starts. That's double above the average of 12%.
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3160 Dogs 12 / Races 0 12 Oct 2018 08:10
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steven martin wrote:
Del Rey ---. CLICK HERE wins the Group 3 Gold Coast Cup last night.
Milldean Panther has now produced - 38 Group Starters for - 9 - Winners 7 - 2nds 4 - 3rds That's 23.68% have won or 1 Group win every 4.2 Group starts. That's double above the average of 12%.
Hi Steve do you have his overall stats. His grp stats are pretty impressive.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 12 Oct 2018 08:48
City Wins 85 C/W Per Whelp 1.81 C/W Per Pup 0.28 500m 60 600m 13 700m 12
Group Results Fnls Qualified for 38 Wins 9 2nd 7 3rd 4 Unp 18 % of Grp Wins 23.68% % of Grp Placings 52.63%
Group Listed Starts 1 Wins 1
Thanks Steve how does this compare to others? I was thinking of using this dog but I didnt think he was doing that well ( think I might be wrong ).
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 13 Oct 2018 22:18
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Bobby, I believe his daughters will be absolutely sensational in the breeding barn, especially when crossed back to an Australian sire.
Steve, I think his daughters will do well with some USA sires too, I have noticed Stapler Jo seems to be in a lot of Superior Product's top off spring. Any of those sires that have the Representation/ Im Slippy theme would do well imo. Kinloch Brae, Superior Product and Cruel Kinda Red. Also Fabregas would be a standout too for the Aussie sires.
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