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Dale Farrugia Australia (Verified User) Posts 17 Dogs 13 / Races 0 25 Mar 2017 04:20
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Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 25 Mar 2017 06:16
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Dale Farrugia wrote:
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Ask Peter Bryce ...he is our resident dietitian only while Jack is away ..lol
Jack... has a fantastic Diet to follow and just PM him here ..
Andrew Plasier Australia (Verified User) Posts 1279 Dogs 0 / Races 16 25 Mar 2017 23:08
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Mashed potato, bread,naan bread french bread have alot of carbs, white bread.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Mar 2017 05:23
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Dale Farrugia wrote:
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The 2 highest energy grains are Oat and Corn No accident they are the main energy feeds for Horses Molamix for Horses Corn Sunflower Safflower Canola Molasses
Don't underestimate the energy in Cornflakes ALDI have large cartons $3.50 Oat fed soft the day prior and day of race is good energy and can also assist to clear the gut colon and bowel of excess protein from Kibble Meat diets Excess fluid in bladder tissue and cell as well as stool waste can reduce .5kg at kennel weigh in if removed Hence the use of a mild diuretic for urine reduction can be beneficial
Corn Oil is better suited to Stayers than Sprinters Other Oils are Canola Soya blend Coconut Oil Rice Bran to a lesser degree Rice Bran is better suited to domestic dogs where energy is not as important
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 26 Mar 2017 07:19
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"Corn Oil is better suited to Stayers than Sprinters."
Why is this, Pete?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 04:45
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Michael This is a basic comparison between 2 Oils Coconut and Soy Oil are also a better choice than Corn for Sprinters - Corn better suited to Horses - However some of the best Greyhound Trainers of Stayers choose it over other Oils
Essential Fatty Acids
When it comes to the quality of the essential fatty acids it contains, canola oil beats corn oil hands down. Only flaxseed oil surpasses canola oil in its content of cardio-protective omega-3 fatty acids. Canola oil is not only higher in healthful polyunsaturated fatty acids than corn oil, but is also lower in unhealthy saturated fats, providing 1.031 grams per tablespoon; in contrast, corn oil contains 1.761 grams. Corn oil also contains small amounts of trans fats, which can cause free radical damage, a build up of LDL cholesterol and increased body fat. Finally, canola oil leads corn oil in its content of beneficial monounsaturated fats, which have anti-inflammatory effects and may help prevent heart disease. Canola oil offers up a generous 8.859 grams per tablespoon, while the same amount of corn oil provides only 3.750 grams. Canola is credited with lowering LDL cholesterol while not decreasing levels of "good" HDL cholesterol.
Nutrition in Corn Flakes
Ingredients
Milled Corn, Sugar, Malt flavor, contains 2% or less of salt. bht added to packaging for freshness. Vitamins and Minerals: Iron, Vitamin C (sodium ascorbate, ascorbic acid), Niacinamide, Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride), Vitamin B2 (riboflavin), Vitamin B (thiamin hydrochloride), Vitamin A palmitate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D, Vitamin B12.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 27 Mar 2017 05:14
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Michael This is a basic comparison between 2 Oils Coconut and Soy Oil are also a better choice than Corn for Sprinters - Corn better suited to Horses - However some of the best Greyhound Trainers of Stayers choose it over other Oils
Essential Fatty Acids
When it comes to the quality of the essential fatty acids it contains, canola oil beats corn oil hands down. Only flaxseed oil surpasses canola oil in its content of cardio-protective omega-3 fatty acids. Canola oil is not only higher in healthful polyunsaturated fatty acids than corn oil, but is also lower in unhealthy saturated fats, providing 1.031 grams per tablespoon; in contrast, corn oil contains 1.761 grams. Corn oil also contains small amounts of trans fats, which can cause free radical damage, a build up of LDL cholesterol and increased body fat. Finally, canola oil leads corn oil in its content of beneficial monounsaturated fats, which have anti-inflammatory effects and may help prevent heart disease. Canola oil offers up a generous 8.859 grams per tablespoon, while the same amount of corn oil provides only 3.750 grams. Canola is credited with lowering LDL cholesterol while not decreasing levels of "good" HDL cholesterol.
Nutrition in Corn Flakes
Ingredients
Milled Corn, Sugar, Malt flavor, contains 2% or less of salt. bht added to packaging for freshness. Vitamins and Minerals: Iron, Vitamin C (sodium ascorbate, ascorbic acid), Niacinamide, Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride), Vitamin B2 (riboflavin), Vitamin B (thiamin hydrochloride), Vitamin A palmitate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D, Vitamin B12.
Well, you have kind of lost me here, Pete. You NOW go on as if Canola is THE best thing rather than corn oil. Forget all that...
I'm interested in your statement..."Corn oil is better for stayers." Can you tell me HOW corn oil helps a stayer better, please?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 05:22
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Coconut Oil Vs. Canola Oil
by MIKE SAMUELS | Last Updated: Jun 15, 2015
At first glance, coconut oil and canola oil may appear fairly similar, as they are both fats derived from plant sources and contain a similar number of calories per serving. Aside from that, however, they have plenty of differences. This means that, depending on your goals, one may be more suitable than the other for your purposes.
Counting Your Calories Both canola oil and coconut oil contain a very similar number of calories. Per tablespoon serving, canola oil has 120 calories, while coconut oil has 117 calories. The amount of fat in a serving is almost identical, too, with canola oil containing 14 grams of fat and coconut containing 13.6 grams. As far as these numbers stack up, it's an even game.
Big Fat Debate The type of fat between the two oils differs greatly.
Canola oil is 61 percent monounsaturated fat, 32 percent polyunsaturated fat -- with a mix of omega-6 and omega-3 -- and 7 percent saturated fat.
Conversely, coconut oil contains 11.8 grams of saturated fat per tablespoon, which means it's around 90 percent saturated fat.
Benefits Battle
The monounsaturated fats in canola oil are where you'll find its benefits. A 2013 report from the "Nutrition Review" journal stated that when compared with other sources of dietary fat, canola oil may reduce levels of total and low-density lipoprotein, or "bad" cholesterol, as well as improve insulin sensitivity.
Additionally, 1 tablespoon of canola oil provides around 15 percent of your recommended intake of vitamin E and around 12 percent of the recommended intake of vitamin K.
Coconut oil is virtually devoid of both of these. While the saturated fat in coconut oil may appear to be a downside, it's slightly different than the saturated fat you find in animal products.
Coconut oil contains medium-chain triglycerides, and this type of saturated fat could be beneficial for increasing energy without raising blood sugar levels, notes nutritionist Dr. Jonny Bowden.
The Final Word Both oils are calorie-dense and should be consumed in moderation if your goals are weight loss or health-related. While coconut oil may offer some slightly different benefits than canola oil, it's still important to keep your saturated fat intake under control. The Department of Health and Human Services advises consuming less than 10 percent of your calories from saturated fat. A mix of both oils, within the calorie boundaries of your diet, is probably best, however. In "The Essentials of Sport and Exercise Nutrition," sports nutritionist Dr. John Berardi recommends getting your fats from a mix of roughly one-third monounsaturated fats, one-third polyunsaturated fats and one-third saturated fats.
Worth noting that this information is Human related Greyhounds have no issues burning fat
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 05:32
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Michael I posted the above prior to reading your question Corn is known to be high energy in the enzymes Put corn in a saucepan and turn up heat POP BANG you have Pop Corn - The explosion of energy release Corn in raw state causes Colic and Gas in Horses - Now fed Crushed Corn in preference to Cracked Corn and Corn Corn Oil is Fed to Horses as well as Vegetable Oils The heat required to generate the energy benefits from Corn is more likely to be achieved over distance than short distance - A bit like feeding Meat Fat opposed to Oils in Greyhounds where L-Carnitine is required to metabolise and break down fats to energy Horses are fed Oat/Barley for the short distance Corn for longer journeys.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 05:35
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Michael Read this again
Essential Fatty Acids
When it comes to the quality of the essential fatty acids it contains, canola oil beats corn oil hands down. Only flaxseed oil surpasses canola oil in its content of cardio-protective omega-3 fatty acids. Canola oil is not only higher in healthful polyunsaturated fatty acids than corn oil, but is also lower in unhealthy saturated fats, providing 1.031 grams per tablespoon; in contrast, corn oil contains 1.761 grams. Corn oil also contains small amounts of trans fats, which can cause free radical damage, a build up of LDL cholesterol and increased body fat. Finally, canola oil leads corn oil in its content of beneficial monounsaturated fats, which have anti-inflammatory effects and may help prevent heart disease. Canola oil offers up a generous 8.859 grams per tablespoon, while the same amount of corn oil provides only 3.750 grams. Canola is credited with lowering LDL cholesterol while not decreasing levels of "good" HDL cholesterol.
The Horse has more time in distance racing opposed to a 1000 metre race to burn the energy in Corn The Horse relies on Oats and Barley as first section energy similar to a Greyhound with Bread Oat Rice Vegetables. The Greyhound Stayer has a longer race time to derive the energy benefits of Corn opposed to a Sprinter.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 09:20
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G'day Peter,intrested in your'e thought's on feeding Sunflower or Safflower oils in a greyhound's diet,i have alway's thought that these were pretty good to use in a their night feed as well,(i thought that safflower was slightly better ),i know that canola is probably on top as far as a plant derived oils go,but by comparison,how do the two i mentioned stack up?
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 27 Mar 2017 10:12
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Interesting article on the use of corn in dog food. Might I add, it's an honest approach with no invested interest.
Monika Then Bergh Germany (Verified User) Posts 571 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 10:45
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topic "carbo feeding stayers" went into "fat feeding stayers".
What is been the initial intention to start it, Dale?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2017 11:38
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Monika Then Bergh wrote:
topic "carbo feeding stayers" went into "fat feeding stayers".
What is been the initial intention to start it, Dale?
Monika Whilst Corn is high in Carbohydrate its fat content is also of value Given Fatty Acids are higher in calories than Carb 3.5cal per gram in Carb compared to 8 to 9cal per gram in Fatty Acids Therefore it isn't hard to see where the energy is derived
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Mar 2017 01:11
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daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Peter,intrested in your'e thought's on feeding Sunflower or Safflower oils in a greyhound's diet,i have alway's thought that these were pretty good to use in a their night feed as well,(i thought that safflower was slightly better ),i know that canola is probably on top as far as a plant derived oils go,but by comparison,how do the two i mentioned stack up?
Daryl Omega 3 - Joint - Omega 6 Skin & Coat - Omega 9 Energy Omega Canola is a good blend of 3 6 & 9 Sunflower is Omega 3 6 and lower 9 Safflower is very high Omega 6
I believe the Energy Omega 9 is very important in Greyhound Athletes Coconut Oil is very high in Saturated Fats (Omega 9) Feeding a blend of different Oils is important
A blend of Canola and Soy Oil is ideal with extra dose day prior and day of event with Coconut Oil
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 28 Mar 2017 08:01
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Hi Peter,thank you for that info mate,would that mean that Sunflower would be a good substitute ( per tablespoon ) for Canola ?.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 704 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Mar 2017 09:09
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Daryl Sunflower is lower in Omega 9 (Energy Omega) It wouldn't matter if your Athlete had good Joints and good Skin & Coat - Without ENERGY it wouldn't be worth taking the Greyhound to the track Coconut Oil is a better option
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Mar 2017 08:38
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Hi Peter,thanks for youre thought's,i noticed that about sunflower oil re omega 9,but wasn't sure about the level of omega 9 that it contains as far as an energy source,it seem's that coconut oil has a lot to offer ( the use of coconut oil is relatively new to me ),so thanks again for sharing your'e knowlegde,i knew about the other oil's & their benefits,but if you dont keep up in this game,you get left behind pretty quickly,lol.( when you speak of corn oil,is that also called corn maize oil?).
Murray Alexander Gardner Australia (Verified User) Posts 31 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Apr 2018 04:15
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HI Peter i would like your opinion o dog kibbles and what is the alternative cheers Murray
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