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Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
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Over Vaccination interesting article

Charles W Mizzi
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In our over regulated, over the top ruling bodies I wonder if any of this was taken notice of.

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Robert Hill
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I find it hard no one has any comment on this subject.
If you go to the bottom of the article and click on you might also like subjects, there are some amazing articles there as well.

With the people involved in greyhounds bleeding dollar profusely,
I thought this sought of data would be important in some sought of rebuttal of the regulations being imposed. If you read the article it states the kennel cough vaccination will do nothing, but buy your vet a Range Rover, if the Vaccination does not cover more than forty elements.

The article "why vets dont recognize dog vaccine reaction" was informative as well along with the amount of income vaccine generates for vets. Thanks for putting that up Charles



Charles W Mizzi
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15 Jul 2017 22:16


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Robert Hill wrote:

I find it hard no one has any comment on this subject.
If you go to the bottom of the article and click on you might also like subjects, there are some amazing articles there as well.

With the people involved in greyhounds bleeding dollar profusely,
I thought this sought of data would be important in some sought of rebuttal of the regulations being imposed. If you read the article it states the kennel cough vaccination will do nothing, but buy your vet a Range Rover, if the Vaccination does not cover more than forty elements.

The article "why vets dont recognize dog vaccine reaction" was informative as well along with the amount of income vaccine generates for vets. Thanks for putting that up Charles

I agree Robert. Forums are discussion points I thought?



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16 Jul 2017 14:35


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A very good friend of our family, Ann Kingston now in her eighty's has always said this, she's an International Best in Show judge for all breeds of dogs, she just gives her dog's their first shot's and that's it.



Jeanette Spruyt
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oisin o duill wrote:

A very good friend of our family, Ann Kingston now in her eighty's has always said this, she's an International Best in Show judge for all breeds of dogs, she just gives her dog's their first shot's and that's it.

Greetings! Oisin,
Your post is very precious.
May I ask what country, Ann is from?
Your country is not shown on the left. Although your name may be a clue? - just curious.
And I would like to express that I have great respect for the no nonsense older members of the community.
People that have seen and been through a lot in time.
And more importantly their knowledge, experience and/or views - has been shared for food for thought at the very least. And also that it is not just lost.
I really enjoy reading old, short stories and also quotes that can sum it all up.
This is the good side of the internet where people can put forward their different outlooks!
And "Wow" I just like the simplicity.
Thanks for a great read, from Jeanette.




Oisin O Duill
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Hi Jeanette, greetings from Ireland and yes Jeanette I think my name did give it away. I see your in Australia, great country I trained there as a greyhound chiropractor and I loved every minute of it and Ann Kingston is also from Ireland. There is a lot to be said about the old ways and old traditions.
I am 3rd generation in greyhounds and my mom could tell you lots of stories about the good old days when they had natural cures for nearly everything, I remember the story about 2 sisters from the Dublin mountains that had the cure for jaundice, that cured
humans and greyhounds, they used to gather wild herb's from the mountain in summer and dried them out, then ground them into powder then mix with a little Guinness to wash them down, it worked every time, unfortunately that cure died with them, and the health benefits from Garlic is also great for dogs we give it daily to the dogs, the list is endless, all the best, Oisin.



Jeanette Spruyt
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oisin o duill wrote:

Hi Jeanette, greetings from Ireland and yes Jeanette I think my name did give it away. I see your in Australia, great country I trained there as a greyhound chiropractor and I loved every minute of it and Ann Kingston is also from Ireland. There is a lot to be said about the old ways and old traditions.
I am 3rd generation in greyhounds and my mom could tell you lots of stories about the good old days when they had natural cures for nearly everything, I remember the story about 2 sisters from the Dublin mountains that had the cure for jaundice, that cured
humans and greyhounds, they used to gather wild herb's from the mountain in summer and dried them out, then ground them into powder then mix with a little Guinness to wash them down, it worked every time, unfortunately that cure died with them, and the health benefits from Garlic is also great for dogs we give it daily to the dogs, the list is endless, all the best, Oisin.

Top of the morning to you! Oisin,
If you ever decide to collate information and write a book, let me know - I will buy one.
It's amazing communicating with another country, and it's amazng that you trained as a chiro here in Aussie land - wasn't expecting that news.
I can picture the mountains in my mind, really nice picture to visualise (not sure which ones I am picturing - but they are rolling green hills, and they look good!) My grandmother would have had some Irish blood running through her veins. She was a very independent woman, that's for sure.
Just for the nostalgia, my other grandmother was from Glasglow, Scotland - would have had to be a fairly tough cookie, I would imagine (only met her a few times).
Anyway, back to greyhounds. I hear what you are saying with natural cures. I also relate that to how greyhound people have their own styles/visions with what is good and what is not.
With our changes here, I certainly don't want to be pigeon holed - it is more from a sense of not having the psychological freedom. We never stop learning that's for sure. I have found some of my best ways and better ways from living it and even when I am under the pump - and have to think smarter.
My dogs all have garlic, and my middle ground with garlic - is to roast it.
I am suppose to put in a submission for the new greyhound code of practice proposals.
On one hand I hear it won't make any difference and on the other as many people as possible should put forward one to make a difference.
I do get stuck with having to have agreements with other parties, as I don't like the idea of once again being pigeon holed. And even to this day, some Vets can have different information and views. And even with vaccinations, they can do my head in - so to speak.
Anyway, I will just have to work out the best way to express my concerns. I suppose as I am more rural now, I don't have alot of choice in having more choice, and the cost is always alot more, and actual vets that can really check a greyhound out
(e.g. like a chiro) is very limited, and some of the roads they take are driven by the dollar and also I have found they are not up front with the costs.
Anyway, I better go now and make the most of some of my pups being away for education, I have alot more time on hand now - but I better make the most of it outside.
I am second generation in greys, and I just really enjoy being around them.
Thanks for your reply and I am glad that I have eventually made it back to the computer today to find it.
Cheers from Jeanette.




Carole Shinkwin
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Robert I put a thread on here quite a while back with regards vaccinations. I was hung out to dry by certain people. It has been proven that giving booster each year you are killing your dogs. Pups to be done between 8 to 10 weeks and that is all that is needed. You have injected an army into the dogs immune system by giving yearly boosters that is another army which fight against the first and so on causing no end of damage cancer loss of use in back legs etc. When babies have their jabs it is not yearly the only people gaining are the vets and the companies making the products.



Monika Then Bergh
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In Germany you can find the
"Leitlinie zur Impfung von Kleintieren"
(guidelines for vaccination of small animals)by the Impfkommission.

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This says (in short)

Foreword

Mehr Tiere impfen, das einzelne Tier so hufig wie ntig!
(vaccinate more animals, the single one as as often as necessary!)
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Grundimmunisierung (Initial Immunization)

Als Grundimmunisierung der Welpen gelten alle Impfungen in den ersten beiden Lebensjahren3.
(With 'initial immunisation' of the puppies are meant all vaccinations within the first two years)

Parvovirose = Parvovirus
Staupe = Canine Distemper
Leptospirose = Leptospirosis
HCC = hepatocellular carcinoma
Tollwut = Rabies
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Im Alter von
(in the age of)

8 Lebenswochen: Parvovirose4, Staupe, Leptospirose5, (HCC)
(with 8 weeks old: Parvovirus, Distempter, Leptospirosis, (HCC))

12 Lebenswochen: Parvovirose, Staupe, Leptospirose, (HCC), (Tollwut)
(12 weeks old: Parvovirus, Distempter, Leptospirosis, (HCC), (Rabies))

16 Lebenswochen: Parvovirose, Staupe, (HCC)
(16 weeks old: Parvovirus, Distempter, (HCC))

15 Lebensmonaten: Parvovirose, Staupe, Leptospirose, (HCC), (ggf. Tollwut6)
(15 month of age: Parvovirus, Distempter, Leptospirosis, (HCC), (eventually Rabies))

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Wiederholungsimpfungen
(Booster injections)

Wiederholungsimpfungen sind alle Impfungen, die nach abgeschlossener Grundimmunisierung erfolgen.
(Booster injections are all vaccinations, done after a concluded initial immunisation.)
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Leptospirosis

Once or twice a year - the vaccination should contain the serogroups common where the dogs live/go.
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Parvovirus, Distempter, HCC

Nach der Grundimmunisierung sind Wiederholungsimpfungen in dreijhrigem Rhythmus nach derzeitigen wissenschaftlichen Erkenntnissen ausreichend.
(After initial immunisation booster injections all 3 years are enough as at present medical findings)
Canines Parvovirus (CPV) kann post vacc. ausgeschieden und auch auf nicht geimpfte Tiere bertragen werden, ohne klinische Symptome zu verursachen (s. Gebrauchsinformationen).
(Canine parvovirus can be egest post vacc. and transferred to not vaccinated animals, without visible clinic symptoms (see leaflet)).
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Tollwut(Rabbies)

In Deutschland gelten seit nderung der Tollwut-Verordnung vom 20.12.2005 die in den Gebrauchsinformationen genannten Wiederholungsimpfintervalle von 2 3 Jahren.(IN GERMANY apply since.. 2005 the vaccination intervals from 2-3 years given in the package information leaflet of the used vaccine)
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Eine Grund-immunisierung bestehend aus drei Impfungen im Alter von 12 und 16 Wochen sowie 15 Lebensmonaten erhht die Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass die Tiere einen fr Reisen in Endemiegebiete erforderlichen Titer von 0,5 IE/ml erreichen.
(An Initial immunisation of 3 vaccinations at the age of 12 weeks, 16 weeks as 15 month increases the likelihood, that the animals reach the for journeys into endemic areas necessary titer of 0,5 IE/ml.)
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Ein derartiges Impfschema geht aber ber die gesetzlichen Anforderungen hinaus.(this sort of vaccination scheme however exceeds the legal requirements)



Edward (Ted) Howard
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One of the rules for naming is c5 injection my pups were done 2 months ago guess what 70% have kennel cough same as the wife had a flu shot 6 wks. ago Anne has had the flu for 3 wks. now. Its all a lot of bullshit and a pocket full of money for the vets and there were a couple on the GA committee when this was introduced.


Mark Keane
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before i got into greyhounds i used to race pigeons they had to be vaccinated in the UK every year in Europe they only had to be vaccinated in there year of birth.

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