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Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 28 Oct 2017 20:44
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Hi just looking to know can these two be giving together ? I have just ordered some black tar but have 3kg of feramo still so dont want it going to waste.. if not till be used together can alternate days work?
Also bought a tub of sharps that bit extra , calcium supplement. Says one scoop but I dont have a scoop in my tub, anyone know how much a scoop is? Thank you, any help appreciated
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 28 Oct 2017 21:52
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Personally Dean, I'd mix the 3kg Feramo with 20 litres of water and sprinkle it over the veggie garden. Actually it's probably no good for that either.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 00:01
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:
Personally Dean, I'd mix the 3kg Feramo with 20 litres of water and sprinkle it over the veggie garden. Actually it's probably no good for that either.
Like ...JQ ....I wonder who disliked the post because they should be drawn and quartered ....
Feramo is way to over rated JQ imo for racing dogs as you know and if anyone is still using it best you give it a break for a couple of weeks and then see the results and as we know actions speak louder than words ...its a bit like mixing flour salt water and yeast and calling it nourishment.
Black Tar is one product that does work in so many ways IMO .....and Old Jack has a proven record over many years to back his claims .....
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 00:03
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Dean ,one thing people who use black tar instead of Fermano know they are two different products.Feramo was was technology from the 70s solely to provide a vitamin and mineral supplement for greyhounds..black tar is a supplement from 2008 that is more than just a vitamin and mineral supplement .Trainers like Jamie ,the kempshall and hundreds more will tell you their dogs are far more healthier ,race better,recover quicker,have stronger immune systems,their coats look great their kidneys and adrenals don't have issues because of the natural herbs with no harmful synthetics than an overload of cheap synthetic vitamins plus much more.As a keen Gardner I would not recommend what Jamie suggests you do.
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 29 Oct 2017 00:52
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Lol I see you Aussies dont care to much for Feramo, surely it adds some Vitamins as it says on the lebel, not looking it to make my dog do amazing times but just to try add a little health. Could you please list a few negatives , why its so bad n shit for even the garden ? Would appreciate the advise . Non explanatory advice is no good to anyone.
Jack Ive black tar on the way, heard good things . Tho have heard people say leave it on the road where it belongs lol, tho they couldnt really put a explanation to that quote. Would you say it could be mixed with Feramo ? Alternative days or no Feramo at all? Thanks
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 29 Oct 2017 00:01
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Feramo is around from the 70s and black tar from 2008? Surely that would mean Kevin Feramo has been tested a little bit longer. I think its still a big seller here in Ireland. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but just trying to figure out why it sells so well still if its useless as you say? I spend a lot of money on the stuff, would like to think it was doing something lol
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 05:22
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Dean townsend wrote:
Feramo is around from the 70s and black tar from 2008? Surely that would mean Kevin Feramo has been tested a little bit longer. I think its still a big seller here in Ireland. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but just trying to figure out why it sells so well still if its useless as you say? I spend a lot of money on the stuff, would like to think it was doing something lol
Dean have a blind trial ... One on Black Tar the other on Feramo ....
Feramo
Vitamin A Vitamin B1 Vitamin B2 Vitamin B3 Vitamin B5 Vitamin B6 Vitamin B12 Vitamin D Vitamin E Yeast Iron as an amino acid chelate Manganese Zinc oxide Copper carbonate Cobalt sulfate
BLACK TAR Greyhound Performance Products - Black Tar
The secret is out. Black Tar, a natural greyhound performance product that every trainer, owner or breeder of greyhounds needs. Do you want to overcome greyhound stress, improve fitness and stamina, enhance competition recovery, maximise greyhound biological strength and system balance, gain a winning edge by optimising your greyhound's full biological potential and performance?
Black Tar is what winners use.
Black Tar is 100% natural nutritioinal botanical supplement blend, that has a vital role in:
providing nutrient required to increase organ/tissue function supporting a balanced biological system strengthening the immune system detoxifying the entire internal system and acting as a natural parasitic, fungal and bacterial eliminator increasing nutrient absorption and energy production replenishing lost vitamins and minerals expended during exercise Directions for use:
Give 5 ml daily for the first 6 weeks then each alternate day thereafter. Mix with food or in some water or milk.
per 100gr Daily value NUTRIENTS Energy 290 kcal 15 % Total fat 0.1 g 0 % Carbohydrates 74.73 gr 25 % Cholesterol 0 mg 0 % Sodium 37 mg 2 % Water 21.87 mg 21.9 % Protein 0 g 0 % VITAMINS Vitamin A - - Vitamin B-6 1 mg 34 % Vitamin B-12 - - Vitamin C - - Vitamin D - - Vitamin E - - Vitamin K - - Vitamin B-1 0.04 g 3 % Vitamin B-2 - - Vitamin B-3 0.93 mg 5 % Vitamin B-5 0.8 mg 8 % Vitamin B-9 - - MINERALS Calcium 205 mg 21 % Iron 4.72 mg 26 % Potassium 1,464 mg 31 % Phosphorus 31 mg 3 % Sodium 37 mg 2 % Zinc 0.29 mg 2 % Copper 0.48 mg 24 % Fluorine - - Manganese 1.53 mg 77 % Selenium 17.8 g 25 %
Available in 500 ml and 1 litre containers.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 05:27
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Dean townsend wrote:
Feramo is around from the 70s and black tar from 2008? Surely that would mean Kevin Feramo has been tested a little bit longer. I think its still a big seller here in Ireland. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but just trying to figure out why it sells so well still if its useless as you say? I spend a lot of money on the stuff, would like to think it was doing something lol
Dean have a blind trial ... One on Black Tar the other on Feramo ....
Feramo
Vitamin A Vitamin B1 Vitamin B2 Vitamin B3 Vitamin B5 Vitamin B6 Vitamin B12 Vitamin D Vitamin E Yeast Iron as an amino acid chelate Manganese Zinc oxide Copper carbonate Cobalt sulfate
BLACK TAR Greyhound Performance Products - Black Tar
The secret is out. Black Tar, a natural greyhound performance product that every trainer, owner or breeder of greyhounds needs. Do you want to overcome greyhound stress, improve fitness and stamina, enhance competition recovery, maximise greyhound biological strength and system balance, gain a winning edge by optimising your greyhound's full biological potential and performance?
Black Tar is what winners use.
Black Tar is 100% natural nutritioinal botanical supplement blend, that has a vital role in:
providing nutrient required to increase organ/tissue function supporting a balanced biological system strengthening the immune system detoxifying the entire internal system and acting as a natural parasitic, fungal and bacterial eliminator increasing nutrient absorption and energy production replenishing lost vitamins and minerals expended during exercise Directions for use:
Give 5 ml daily for the first 6 weeks then each alternate day thereafter. Mix with food or in some water or milk.
per 100gr Daily value NUTRIENTS Energy 290 kcal 15 % Total fat 0.1 g 0 % Carbohydrates 74.73 gr 25 % Cholesterol 0 mg 0 % Sodium 37 mg 2 % Water 21.87 mg 21.9 % Protein 0 g 0 % VITAMINS Vitamin A - - Vitamin B-6 1 mg 34 % Vitamin B-12 - - Vitamin C - - Vitamin D - - Vitamin E - - Vitamin K - - Vitamin B-1 0.04 g 3 % Vitamin B-2 - - Vitamin B-3 0.93 mg 5 % Vitamin B-5 0.8 mg 8 % Vitamin B-9 - - MINERALS Calcium 205 mg 21 % Iron 4.72 mg 26 % Potassium 1,464 mg 31 % Phosphorus 31 mg 3 % Sodium 37 mg 2 % Zinc 0.29 mg 2 % Copper 0.48 mg 24 % Fluorine - - Manganese 1.53 mg 77 % Selenium 17.8 g 25 %
Available in 500 ml and 1 litre containers.
Now Dean these are the facts ....Feramo is a waste of money in fact many learnt the hard way here is Aust many years ago ......
IMO i believe feramo inhibits certain Vit and Min from being absorbed into a greyhounds system ...Constant blood checks later the Feramo was thrown away ...True story believe it or not ...lol...
Laurence Lee Ireland (Verified User) Posts 507 Dogs 2 / Races 0 29 Oct 2017 12:23
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Garmivit Xtra is the best product out there. It has everything in it.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 19:39
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Laurence , without getting into an argument with you it does not have any natural herbs, colostrum ,olive leaf extract just to mention a few .my distributors in Eng, and Ireland have told me trainers think BT is the best product they have ever used.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 23:10
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Laurence , without getting into an argument with you it does not have any natural herbs, colostrum ,olive leaf extract just to mention a few .my distributors in Eng, and Ireland have told me trainers think BT is the best product they have ever used.
It is so good Jack i was thinking about swapping the Vegemite for BT Jack ..
All jokes and spruiking aside people just need to try it on a dog with a bad Coat just for starters and see the difference in 6 weeks ....
Fact after fact BT outperforms almost all of the current products on the market today ...Years of research on Greyhounds has given Jack the insite to be able to produce a very simple product with all the NATURAL ingredients .... Dogs today are polluted with toxins in our environment and in our diets .. Stressed dogs seem to pick up better when using BT ... Its like a Fuel injector cleaner for your Car ....
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 29 Oct 2017 23:22
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Good call Kevin.Thanks mate.Some people are stuck in the 70s ,you or I will never get them out of the time warp.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 30 Oct 2017 01:34
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
Good call Kevin.Thanks mate.Some people are stuck in the 70s ,you or I will never get them out of the time warp.
Jack i also loved the speal .... Fuel injector for your Horse or Canine ......is a classic ...
Good to see you are still plugging away and a Merry Xmas to you and your family ..
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 30 Oct 2017 05:26
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Dean townsend wrote:
Feramo is around from the 70s and black tar from 2008? Surely that would mean Kevin Feramo has been tested a little bit longer. I think its still a big seller here in Ireland. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but just trying to figure out why it sells so well still if its useless as you say? I spend a lot of money on the stuff, would like to think it was doing something lol
Nothing wrong with Feramo.......it's just that there are arguably better options available now. It certainly won't hurt your dogs to alternate between the Feramo and the Black Tar until you have used up the Feramo. IMO
At the end of the day, dogs will only benefit from supplements if they are deficient in something to begin with.
Any supplement can be detrimental if over-used.....so try to use sparingly and don't be scared to give them a day off from the vitamins/minerals occasionally to let their bodies excrete/purge any excess.
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 30 Oct 2017 07:23
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Mark Schlegel wrote:
Dean townsend wrote:
Feramo is around from the 70s and black tar from 2008? Surely that would mean Kevin Feramo has been tested a little bit longer. I think its still a big seller here in Ireland. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but just trying to figure out why it sells so well still if its useless as you say? I spend a lot of money on the stuff, would like to think it was doing something lol
Nothing wrong with Feramo.......it's just that there are arguably better options available now. It certainly won't hurt your dogs to alternate between the Feramo and the Black Tar until you have used up the Feramo. IMO
At the end of the day, dogs will only benefit from supplements if they are deficient in something to begin with.
Any supplement can be detrimental if over-used.....so try to use sparingly and don't be scared to give them a day off from the vitamins/minerals occasionally to let their bodies excrete/purge any excess.
Thanks Mark, makes a lot of sense . Thanks for your reply. My bottle of BT hasnt arrived yet but looking into it I will be using 90ml a week for 3 dogs so bottle will last 5 weeks. 35 or $46 a month more or less so is a good bit more expensive. So would need to be a lot better than Feramo for me a small trainer to order regular. But willing to try it if will benefit the dogs. Thanks
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Oct 2017 07:25
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As per our instructions.1 teaspoon for the first 6 weeks then 1 teaspoon every second day. 1 LT will last 1 dog about 10 month.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Oct 2017 07:25
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As per our instructions.1 teaspoon for the first 6 weeks then 1 teaspoon every second day. 1 LT will last 1 dog about 10 month. As I said previously BT is a totally different product completely than feramo . Today we had 27 orders up till 5pm and another 7 till 7pm.so people who want to use Feramo stick with it if your happy.
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 30 Oct 2017 07:26
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Jack Ogilvie wrote:
As per our instructions.1 teaspoon for the first 6 weeks then 1 teaspoon every second day. 1 LT will last 1 dog about 10 month. I
Says 5ml a day not one teaspoon jack
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 30 Oct 2017 07:34
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Dean,,,, "seriously" a tea spoon is 5ml mate...
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15480 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Oct 2017 07:36
Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
